The Senseless Death in a Charleston Church Could Have Been Prevented

SGBerman ^ | June 18, 2015 | Steve Berman

[Robert A Cook PE]

Gee. The gunman broke the law.

He carried a gun into a church.

(Must have been black - Else this writer would have emphasized “racial hate-crimes” rather than gun violence in the propaganda.

[Sopater]

Didn’t the shooter know it was illegal to bring a gun into a church?

Evidently we have a literacy problem in America, and a problem where the people obviously don’t know the laws.

There should be a law that requires that everybody know the laws.

[Gaffer]

...21-year-old sandy blonde-haired white man

The biased incorrect narrative continues even in the face of countered evidence.

It isn't facts, or circumstances. It is all about political motivation and supposition, even if it isn't true.

[gdani]

Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).

Unless the church allows it.

[Blood of Tyrants]

“Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).”

You mean that the law didn’t stop him? He just must have been unaware that it was illegal to take a gun into a church.

[DoodleDawg]

Because when I go to church the first thing I grab on my way out the door is my pistol. </sarcasm>

Arguments like this are just as stupid and just as pointless as the guy who argued this is all Nikki Haley's fault because she didn't oppose flying the Confederate flag.

[Sopater]

So the reverend who was killed, Clementa Pinckney, was a state senator who voted against allowing good, law abiding citizens from carrying guns in churches for defense from evil killers. Care to re-vote on that one, Senator?

[Robert A Cook PE]

Nope. He’s white.

[Sopater]

Unless the church allows it.

The point is that the reverend who was killed voted as a state senator against the bill that allows the church to decide.

[VerySadAmerican]

They need to make that “no carrying a gun in church” law a little bit stronger. Maybe change the wording and use capital letters a lot.

[Sopater]

Who said that?

[VerySadAmerican]

They’re going to get “white man” in the article as many times as possible. And that is the kind of stuff SOME white people are getting sick and tired of seeing.

[Sopater]

They need to make that “no carrying a gun in church” law a little bit stronger. Maybe change the wording and use capital letters a lot.

Yeah, and some bold-face font with some blinking lights would probably help too.

[Gaffer]

Yes. It’s no problem to identify “white” as the potential culprit although they don’t even go through the usual “alleged” whatever. Straight up “whitey did it - all you crackers owe us reparations.”

[DoodleDawg]

Who said that?

Some former Obama administration HUD undersecretary I think it was. Apparently Tweeted that earlier this morning.

[DoodleDawg]

Here's a link

[moovova]

“They need to make that “no carrying a gun in church” law a little bit stronger. Maybe change the wording and use capital letters a lot.”

And, pictures...lots of pictures.

[Sooth2222]

In 2014, he voted against S.308, which Haley signed in law, allowing a Concealed Weapons Permit holder to carry firearms into restaurants that serve alcohol, while preserving the restaurant owner’s right to ban individuals carrying firearms in their establishment.

Current S.C. state law prohibits permitted individuals from carrying a weapon in a church (S.C. Code Ann § 21-31-215).

Is it too much to wonder if a South Carolinian can carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol but not in a church if that might be at the insistence of those same Black ministers? (If Roof needed to change mags frequently for a 1911, couldn't a congregation member with a high-capacity firearm have stopped his rampage?)

[kearnyirish2]

As I understand it, like Pope Sharpton I this guy was a “reverend” at 13.

While the shooting is horrible and indefensible, can we stop pretending that this was a “church”? The “reverend” was an elected official!