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Saddam: What We Now Know (2011 Article)
National Review ^ | September 14, 2011 Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/277115/saddam-what-we-now-kn | Jim Lacey

Posted on 06/09/2015 8:46:10 AM PDT by BeadCounter

When American tanks smashed into Baghdad, Saddam had already completed construction of an anthrax production facility, which was a week away from going live. If it had been permitted to go into production, this one facility could have produced ten tons of weaponized anthrax a year. Experts estimate that anthrax spores that infect the skin will kill 50 percent of untreated victims. Inhaled anthrax will kill 100 percent of untreated victims and 50 percent of those receiving immediate treatment. That means that a mere 1 percent of Saddam’s annual production (200 pounds) sprayed by crop-duster over New York City would have killed upwards of three million people.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/277115/saddam-what-we-now-know-jim-lacey

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


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I'll cut to the chase here and the main thing that stayed with me about this article is this talk about anthrax. I had not heard this. This is quite a claim.

Is this writers statements debunked? He builds up a good case of saying WMDs were in Iraq but what he seems seems counter not just to the mainstream media but even conservative sources.

A good article in general but I don't know if I want to use its talking points if they are not altogether valid. To me, I do doubt some of the points and other points are of course, a bit on the murky side.

Thank you in advance.

1 posted on 06/09/2015 8:46:10 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
Weaponized anthrax is often a mix of spores and bentonite clay to prevent them from clumping. They are more easily disbursed in the air that way. The spore form is very resistant to heat and dry conditions. If it lands on soil, the spores can remain viable for very long periods of time. Once a spore gets inhaled, the warm, most lung tissue causes it to "germinate" to the vegetative form. As enough bacteria grow in the lung tissue, a mild "flu" symptom is experienced. That goes away in the "eclipse" phase as infection advances to bacteremia. About a week on, the victim bleeds out into the lungs and suffocates with a bloody, cherry froth.

Immediate treatment after discovery of infection requires a "slow kill" to dodge a herxheimer reaction and to maintain the killing effort as the spores germinate. If you go too fast, the patient succumbs from sudden bacterial toxins released by the killed organisms.

Skin infections proceed more slowly, but eventually can proceed toward bacteremia.

It's pretty low tech stuff. Kitchen table warfare. Unfortunately, nobody controls the wind. Infections can't always be treated successfully.

2 posted on 06/09/2015 9:01:23 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: BeadCounter

“Saddam had already completed construction of an anthrax production facility”

sez who?


3 posted on 06/09/2015 9:04:38 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: BeadCounter

If the Iraqis would’ve pulled off the whole “crop duster Anthrax attack” thing we would’ve nuked them into glass. I simply do not see Sadaam even contemplating such a thing for an instant. He was not insane. Just a dude who wanted to stay alive and in power. Attacking the US would be suicidal in every respect. This article is absurd.


4 posted on 06/09/2015 9:14:02 AM PDT by 2big2fail
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To: JoeProBono

Exactly! Where did the author get this, the resource (linked) page then has nothing. National Review should be careful about posting info if it is not adequately resourced.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/277391/saddam-wmd-s-and-terror-jim-lacey (page not found)


5 posted on 06/09/2015 9:15:07 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

BBBBBBBut Bush Lied and people died


6 posted on 06/09/2015 9:15:17 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: BeadCounter

Bmfl


7 posted on 06/09/2015 9:28:46 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: BeadCounter

I’m not surprised that a link from 2011 doesn’t work.

“Where did the author get this, the resource (linked) page then has nothing. National Review should be careful about posting info if it is not adequately resourced.”


8 posted on 06/09/2015 9:29:23 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: BeadCounter

It appears legit:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/277115/saddam-what-we-now-know-jim-lacey


9 posted on 06/09/2015 9:29:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: BeadCounter

try this

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/277391/saddam-wmds-and-terror-jim-lacey?target=author&tid=901145


10 posted on 06/09/2015 9:32:59 AM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Fredo Smart)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
When American tanks smashed into Baghdad, Saddam had already completed construction of an anthrax production facility, which was a week away from going live. If it had been permitted to go into production, this one facility could have produced ten tons of weaponized anthrax a year. Experts estimate that anthrax spores that infect the skin will kill 50 percent of untreated victims. Inhaled anthrax will kill 100 percent of untreated victims and 50 percent of those receiving immediate treatment. That means that a mere 1 percent of Saddam's annual production (200 pounds) sprayed by crop-duster over New York City would have killed upwards of three million people.
Thanks BeadCounter.
11 posted on 06/09/2015 9:44:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: dirtboy
Not really. Yes, he has a full article written, but his sources are nonexistent.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Additional sources for the information in this column are available here.

Where said link goes to:

The requested page "/corner/277391/saddam-wmd-s-and-terror-jim-lacey" could not be found.
12 posted on 06/09/2015 9:49:15 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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Saddam: What We Now Know (He was at least as big a terror threat as Osama Bin Laden)


13 posted on 06/09/2015 9:50:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: stylin19a

Thank you and thanks to all others contributing.


14 posted on 06/09/2015 10:00:20 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: tlozo
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15 posted on 06/09/2015 10:11:23 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: BeadCounter

Thank heaven for embedded reporters. I still remember, and a few people here do too, I think, that during the invasion they captured a chemical plant which manufactured nerve agent. The plant manager was an Iraqi Army general, the plant was secured by Iraqi troops, surrounded by barbed wire and guard towers.

Then a couple of days later it was announced that, no, come to find out, it isn’t nerve agent at all, its agricultural pesticide. Our mistake.

Later, 3 or 4 more times, they would capture Iraqi Army ammo dumps and find barrels of nerve agent. At one location the reporters got sick from exposure. And then, a couple of days later, our mistake again. Its agricultural pesticide. At an ammo dump.

I thought then, who has the power to make nerve agent disappear just by renaming it? At a time when Bush’s presidency hung in the balance on just that issue, who had that power?

Without the embedded reporters, none of us would know about it, and it has gone right down the memory hole since then.

One more thing. We know, they keep telling us there is no relationship between Bin Ladin and Saddam. But we have minutes from a meeting right before 911 where Saddam tells his council to expect a false flag attack on the US.

One more thing: Bin Ladin was recruited by Zawahiri and his men, and they became Bin Ladin’s inner circle, others have commented that once they came into the picture you couldn’t get to him without going through them. And who were they? They were Egyptian Islamic Jihad. EIJ was on Saddam’s payroll. So the connection between Bin Ladin and Saddam is not really a secret, it has been hiding in plain sight all along, and everyone agrees to pretend not to notice it.


16 posted on 06/09/2015 11:00:46 AM PDT by marron
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To: SunkenCiv

Good article; thanks for the link.


17 posted on 06/09/2015 11:06:47 AM PDT by marron
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To: marron

:’) My pleasure.


18 posted on 06/09/2015 11:36:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: marron

Thank you, a very full informative answer.


19 posted on 06/09/2015 6:17:27 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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