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1 posted on 06/08/2015 5:13:10 AM PDT by thackney
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If you do a search for “china traffic jam” it makes complete sense that they need so much oil and gas, their cars never get off the highway once they get on.

;o)


2 posted on 06/08/2015 5:17:42 AM PDT by Marko413
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It would seem to me that if American imports decrease because of increased domestic production, no change in China imports would still result in China becoming the largest importer.


3 posted on 06/08/2015 5:24:19 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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4 posted on 06/08/2015 5:25:12 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Making China completely dependent on sea lanes we can shut down.

PWND.


7 posted on 06/08/2015 6:35:22 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (ISIS: Islam's Reformation)
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At some point I expect they will demand that oil exporters accept the Yuan in payment.

That would really screw the USA


8 posted on 06/08/2015 6:43:35 AM PDT by PGR88
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10 posted on 06/08/2015 6:45:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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There's a reason why they signed the deal with Russia in regards to petroleum imports. China knows there is a LOT of oil in eastern Siberia and once they tap into that source, that will be bad news for OPEC.
12 posted on 06/08/2015 6:51:40 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (q)
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Where China imports oil from is more important than how much.

One of the justifiable reasons China has for increasing the capability of its Navy is to secure its sea lines of communication/commerce (oil supply routes).

Currently ~70% of China’s oil is imported from the Middle East. This clearly necessitates traversing the Indonesian straits (Sunda or Malacca) or circumnavigating most of the world to skirt below the Cape of Good Hope and Cape Horn.

China cannot fight any protracted war involving the US Navy under this situation for at least 15+ years. Indeed, without using its nukes, it could not currently force the Indonesian straits against a local coalition. In a war involving India, China would be forced to convoy its tankers, which would be difficult without a secure base in the Western IO.

If India becomes an anti-China belligerent (which I think China would do much to avoid), I would expect China to promise Pakistan the areas of Jammu, Kashmir, and most of Gujarat in return for a well timed attack and basing, with a large Chinese force making an attack through the Uttarakhand (Himalaya Mountains) to flank the Indian armies and put pressure on New Delhi. The strategy being to knock India out and force concessions, not take all of India. The mere threat of this would likely force Indian neutrality.

With a few more aircraft carriers, the Chinese will own the South China Sea and be able to dominate local powers, but they will still not be able to force the Indonesian straits without putting boots on the ground. I think landing a force to control the Straights of Malacca would be too difficult and costly, but an amphibious assault on both sides of the Sunda Straight wouldn’t be as difficult and would have the dual effect of putting Jakarta in peril, likely forcing Indonesia to accept Chinese terms.

If I were running the PLAN, I would be looking to establish a minimum of 8 fleet carrier strike groups, the amphibious capability to put 50,000 troops ashore, and a robust anti-submarine capability. I would also be sorting out a plan to take forward operating bases (islands) near the approaches to the Indonesian straights, should the need arise. In the IO, I’d be looking for a secure naval base near the Horn of Africa or on the Arabian Peninsula itself.

If I were the Chinese government, I’d be looking for secure supplies of oil, either domestic fracking or more pipelines from Russian and the ‘stans.


13 posted on 06/08/2015 6:56:03 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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You want to see the world REALLY change, just watch what happens when the US becomes a net exporter of energy in a few years. Think about what it will mean to:
... have no use for middle-Eastern tyrants,
... benefit fiscally by the price of oil going UP,
... have oil importers like Exxon-Mobil lose clout relative to oil producers like Sinclair,
... have zero economic benefit to pretending that global warming is real.


15 posted on 06/08/2015 8:04:15 AM PDT by dangus
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