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1 posted on 06/01/2015 2:49:39 PM PDT by BradtotheBone
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Just got this in an email...

Dick Kantenberger
Gifted Education Writer

Examiner.com History Lesson on Your Social Security card
Just in case some of you young whippersnappers (& some older ones) didn’t know this.
It’s easy to check out, if you don’t believe it. Be sure and show it to your family and friends. They need a little history lesson on what’s what and it doesn’t matter whether you are Democrat or Republican. Facts are Facts.
Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes. Since nearly everyone in the United States now has a number, it became convenient to use it anyway and the message, NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION, was removed.
An old Social Security card has the “NOT FOR IDENTIFICATION” message.

Our Social Security

Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the Social
Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
Completely voluntary,

No longer Voluntary

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual
Incomes into the Program,

Now 7.65% on the first $90,000

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

No longer tax deductible

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent ‘Trust Fund’ rather than into the
general operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

Under Johnson the money was moved to
The General Fund and Spent

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed
as income.

Under Clinton & Gore
Up to 85% of your Social Security can be Taxed

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are
now receiving a Social Security check every month —
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to ‘put
away’ — you may be interested in the following:

—————— -———— -———— -———— -———— -———— ——

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from the
independent ‘Trust Fund’ and put it into the
general fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

—————— -———— -———— -———— -———— -———— -———— -

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

—————— -———— -———— -———— -———— -———— -———— -

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
‘tie-breaking’ deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US

—————— -———— -———— -———— -———— -———— -———— -

Q: Which Political Party decided to start
giving annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That’s right!

Jimmy Carter and the Democratic Party.
Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

—————— — —————— -———— -—— —————— -———— -——

Then, after violating the original contract (FICA),
the Democrats turn around and tell you that the Republicans want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed citizens believe it!
If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of
awareness will be planted and maybe changes will
evolve.
But it’s worth a try. How many people can YOU send this to?


59 posted on 06/01/2015 3:49:32 PM PDT by IM2MAD (IM2MAD=Individual Motivated 2 Make A Difference)
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It’s my money Jeb
What you are suggesting is illegal


62 posted on 06/01/2015 3:53:36 PM PDT by kidd
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Yep, this is where the GOP green eyeshade establishment is - if you work your whole life, save and invest for the future they will punish you by taking away what was promised to you. FU Bush and Republican establishment too.


63 posted on 06/01/2015 3:56:55 PM PDT by Bull Man
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FUJB

You bastards robbed me while I was working and now you want to rob me while I'm retired, FU very much!

64 posted on 06/01/2015 3:57:27 PM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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Best news I’ve heard since Jeb announced!
Having dipped his toes in the presidential waters, he has now grasped the third rail.
Who would vote for him? Dems weren’t going to. Conservatives weren’t going to. After this, working people won’t vote for him. That’s virtually everybody!


66 posted on 06/01/2015 4:04:54 PM PDT by Buttons12
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People who saved money for retirement get punished. Those who blew it on expensive cars, RVs and lavish vacations get rewarded. What a great idea.


69 posted on 06/01/2015 4:18:17 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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So, Jeb, let’s see if I’ve got this straight. You’re supporting the notion that if I’ve had a big chunk of my money stolen for most of my life with the promise that I’ll get it back when I retire, but that I WON’T actually get it back if YOU deem I don’t need it but someone else who is more “worthy” than me will get it instead?

Isn’t that just a socialistic wealth redistribution scheme built on broken promises and government theft? Oh, and please explain to me again why you are any different than any other DemoKommie and why I should vote for you?

BTW, Jeb, given the above, your ignorant insistence that “climate change” is driven by human activities, and your open borders stance, I wouldn’t vote for you, even if Satan himself was the only other choice.


70 posted on 06/01/2015 4:19:12 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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Means testing is a tax on savings.


71 posted on 06/01/2015 4:21:49 PM PDT by C19fan
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Then SS would become nothing but another welfare program. Why should my wife and I who paid into it be denied because we have saved for retirement?


74 posted on 06/01/2015 4:28:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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Lets make sure people die before they can collect and if they manage to live long enough to collect means test them out of it. Whatever it takes right Jebbie?


76 posted on 06/01/2015 4:35:39 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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FUJB. FOAD.

L


77 posted on 06/01/2015 4:37:42 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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This idiot doesn’t even know the retirement age for Social Security has already been raised. I do not get full benefits until I am 67.


78 posted on 06/01/2015 4:44:05 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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As so many of the posts here illustrate, Social Security can never be eliminated in one step. Too many people feel they are "owed" a universal government entitlement. Social Security has never been an individual savings account which people first pay into and then draw out of. Social Security has always been yet another form of compulsory income redistribution. This socialist scheme is far more insidious than other welfare entitlements in that so many people wrongly feel it is their "right". They demand their government check with no concern for how much they really paid in or whose money they are actually stealing.

I am no fan of Jeb Bush, but I give him credit for being the only Republican presidential candidate who is suggesting anything that could actually lead to an end of this socialistic Ponzi scheme. Making Social Security means tested is the only feasible way of exposing it as the arbitrary tax and welfare payment it really is. Only when people are able to finally see it clearly as yet another socialistic payout will it be contained and then ultimately eliminated. It would be far better for our country to pay millions of elderly poor a welfare check than continue this phoney income redistribution lie that makes otherwise conservative Americans whine like socialists deadbeats.

81 posted on 06/01/2015 4:50:42 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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I am so sick of these Bushes and the wars they have gotten us into. Bush No. 1 invaded Iraq to help his royal buddies in Kuwait. Bush No. 2 followed suit in order to rid the world of Saddam Hussein. So, how did that work out for us, not even considering the thousands of American military killed or maimed?

Thanks to Bush No. 2, we got stuck with Obama due to so many voters’ disillusionment with Bush No. 2. From Obama, we got a Middle East in turmoil, and Muslim terrorists martyring thousands of Christians.

Could things be more disastrous for us at home and abroad? Now, we have Bush No. 3 telling us that he supports raising the retirement age, and for folks like me who worked hard and saved equally as hard, now he wants us to give up our right to the Social Security we paid for.

What a POS. F you JEB.


84 posted on 06/01/2015 5:10:24 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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How about getting people off of Social Security who in my mind have no business being on it. Last time I was in a Social Security office, out of say 100 people I would say maybe 5 were over 60 years old. Way to many people on Social Security other than for retirement.


85 posted on 06/01/2015 5:13:53 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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So, Jebbie wants to change the rules after the game has been played.

Go away, John Ellis Bush.


87 posted on 06/01/2015 5:31:24 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The so-called Southern Poverty Law Center is a hate group.)
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Good plan Jeb, you jawless bag of flesh, campaign on a platform of stealing people’s retirement money and merging our homeland with Mexico.


93 posted on 06/01/2015 5:49:08 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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Social Security means testing is nothing more than massive government sponsored robbery.

We are forced to contribute to Social Security; check every pay stub you have ever received. And some twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years after your forced contribution an unelected bureaucrat determines that you are worth too much and steals (aka redirects) part of the money confiscated from your paychecks to someone more needy.

What standard is he using? When did it go into effect? Are the computations subject to adjustments at a later date? Is there any appeal process?

Failure to provide concrete answers to these questions BEFORE the first dime is stolen reflects the true nature of Social Security means testing.

Talk about a massive incentive not to work!


97 posted on 06/01/2015 6:21:56 PM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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100 posted on 06/01/2015 7:11:29 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!" Isaiah 5:20)
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