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The Prospects for Polygamy
The New York Times ^ | May 30, 2015 | Ross Douthat

Posted on 05/31/2015 10:31:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

ON every issue save abortion, social liberalism is suddenly ascendant in America. The shift on same-sex marriage has captured the headlines, but the change is much more comprehensive: In just 15 years, we have gone from being a society divided roughly evenly between progressive and traditionalist visions to a country where social conservatism is countercultural and clearly in retreat.

This reality is laid bare in the latest Gallup social issues survey, which shows that it’s not only support for same-sex marriage that’s climbing swiftly: so is approval of unwed parenthood (45 percent in 2001, 61 percent now), divorce (59 percent then, 71 percent today), and premarital sex (53 percent then, 68 percent now). Approval of physician-assisted suicide is up seven points and support for research that destroys human embryos for research is up 12, pushing both practices toward supermajority support.

Oh, and one more thing: The acceptance of polygamy has more than doubled.

Now admittedly, that last one is an outlier: Support for plural matrimony rose to 16 percent from 7 percent, a swift rise but still a very low number. Polygamy is bobbing forward in social liberalism’s wake, but it’s a long way from being part of the new permissive consensus....

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; polls; polygamy
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To: Wilhelm Tell

No, they’ll just have “gay” couples on “regular” Divorce Court, just as advertisers are slipping-in homosexuals on commercials.


21 posted on 05/31/2015 11:17:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: ilovesarah2012
social liberalism is suddenly ascendant in America.

As we have a lawless president and unelected judges forcing this down the throats of Americans...

22 posted on 05/31/2015 11:19:30 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Far far far more precedent in human society for polygamy then SS “marriage”. Once you break the mold of “one man one woman”, all bets are off....


23 posted on 05/31/2015 11:23:51 AM PDT by Kozak (Walker / Cruz 2016 or Cruz/ Walker 2016 Either one is good...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The women’s rights grrrls won’t let anyone have polygamy unless they are given polyandry in return.

Or, probably, multiple husbands, wives, bisexuals, transsexuals, and whatever, all living together.


24 posted on 05/31/2015 11:29:23 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“they’ll just have “gay” couples on “regular” Divorce Court,”

****

In 10 years, it will be two men and five little boys...only it won’t be a custody issue. All will be married to each other.


25 posted on 05/31/2015 11:32:05 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Hillary Kardashian Clinton - famous for being infamous)
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To: Poison Pill

Hasn’t divorce been part of our society for at least 100-150 years? Maybe no fault divorce was a mistake but I don’t buy the causation of the current trend.


26 posted on 05/31/2015 11:40:47 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh yes. And then those trophy wenches divorce the bank accounts out those over rich dimwits.


27 posted on 05/31/2015 11:41:55 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: All
I want to marry my recliner😊
28 posted on 05/31/2015 11:51:56 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Hasn’t divorce been part of our society for at least 100-150 years?

The way it is now? No. It used to be a scandal. In the 1850s one of my ancestors was thrown in jail in Indiana. His crime was he was cohabitating with a woman and could not prove his previous wife had died.

I can't remember the last time I heard a woman involved with a married man refered to as a "home wrecker".

29 posted on 05/31/2015 12:13:04 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: grania

How long before human to animal wedlock? New childrens book may be titled: “Susie’s dad is a dog?” Or “Jimmy’s Mom is a cow”. Polygamy is based on Religion and so will never be popular-in our neo-pagan world. How long before it will be illegal to be a Christian? How long before Satan is openly worshipped and out God-President is worshipped as a God like Caesars of old?


30 posted on 05/31/2015 12:14:28 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: dp0622

You remember the decades of campaining for single mothers, the decades of political correct relabling of mom and dad to guardian.

They think perhaps by making kids who grow up in theses unfortunate situations will be more normal if we all act like its more normal. Instead they just convince everyone else it is more normal all the while the kids are just as messed up, while their share of the population grows as more and more people stop trying to avoid that sittuation.


31 posted on 05/31/2015 12:19:27 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: amihow
But first we accepted contraception

Not long ago I saw a story about a Catholic parish that was tearing down it's school. The priest was heart broken but just could not afford the insurance and upkeep on a school where the attendence was 1/3 the building capacity.

A constant stream of parents and grand parents would come into his office and read him the riot act. After they vented, the priest would ask them how many children they had. Two, they would all say. Exactly, said the priest, so did everyone else.

32 posted on 05/31/2015 12:28:43 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Poison Pill

Okay I see what you meant.


33 posted on 05/31/2015 12:31:12 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ilovesarah2012

The only good news is all of this will destroy itself and probably the country along with it. But marriage which has been on the way out sense they made it a ‘convenience’ with easy divorce. May be reborn from the void left behind by the meaningless union the state now illegally call’s ‘marriage’.

So yes if they are going to redefine the State’s ‘marriage’ to be about feelings rather than families then Polygamy should be embraced as should low to zero cost divorce. A union defined solely on the personal feeling’s of its members deserves no more barriers to entry or exit than that of their feelings and its impact and consequences to the rest of society should equally reflected in its degree recondition.

In the case of union in which there are no 3rd parties effected(such as children) There is really no reason anyone should care should it end or start as it is really no more significant than that of any other kind of friendship to the rest of us.

Marriage on the other hand is about children’s rights to their parents and that institution is something we can rebuild.


34 posted on 05/31/2015 12:34:46 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Sherman Logan

I always read your posts. It’s hard sometimes. Truth is often hard to hear or read.


35 posted on 05/31/2015 1:01:12 PM PDT by wintertime (Stop treating government teachers like they are reincarnated Mother Teresas!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I want to know how they ask questions too.

For example, regarding unwed motherhood.

If I were asked if I approve, I would say no. If I were asked a slightly different question, such as, do I think single mothers can raise children without a father, I might say yes,, even though I disapprove of the idea in the first place.

I question if 2/3 of Americans really approve of single motherhood, based on just how questions are asked. Was it a push poll of some kind, in which they tried to get positive responses to liberal scenarios???


36 posted on 05/31/2015 1:06:24 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The philosophy that says you can screw anything that moves, and even a few things that don’t, will always be easier to sell than Christianity.


37 posted on 05/31/2015 1:09:34 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Poison Pill

We need to bring back terms like “home wrecker,” “tramp,” “bumb,” etc.


38 posted on 05/31/2015 1:17:17 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Was it a push poll of some kind, in which they tried to get positive responses to liberal scenarios???

The New York Times would do that? :0 [/sarc]

39 posted on 05/31/2015 1:53:11 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: The Great RJ

At the very least, courts will rule any prosecution of polygamy unconstitutional, may not allow the benefits to be claimed, but treating polygamists as criminals has already been ruled unconstitutional by a judge in Utah, so I expect other judges to do similar rulings at some future points in other states where polygamist groups gather, such as Arizona, Texas, etc.


40 posted on 05/31/2015 2:26:04 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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