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Massive Numbers Of Chinese Students Expelled From US Schools
Daily Caller ^ | 5/29/15 | Blake Neff

Posted on 05/29/2015 7:33:40 PM PDT by markomalley

An estimated 8,000 Chinese students studying in America were expelled last year for cheating or for extremely poor academic performance, a survey by a company catering to Chinese students has found.

The report was put together by WholeRen Education, which served the Chinese market, and was originally written in Chinese. It was translated by The Wall Street Journal’s China Real Time blog, which noticed the big expulsion figure. Of the approximately 8,000 expulsions, more than 80 percent were due to poor academic performance or cheating.

According to the International Institute of Education, there were 274,439 Chinese students attending U.S. universities in the 2013-14 school year, representing about one-third of all foreign college students. The figure of 8,000 expulsions suggests that almost 3 percent of Chinese students are being expelled in a given year. That number isn’t extreme, but it’s notable, especially since Chinese students studying abroad are supposed to be high achievers. More than half of those expelled were attending top 100 institutions in the U.S., an average of 40 students per school in a single year.

The high expulsion rate represents what has proven to be a recurring issue with Chinese students entering top U.S. schools: sterling credentials that are built upon cheating, plagiarism, rote memorization, and paying others to write essays or take tests.

“Chinese students used to be considered top-notch but over the past five years their image has changed completely — wealthy kids who cheat,” Chen Hang, WholeRen’s chief development officer, told the Journal.

The report comes just a day after 15 Chinese nationals were arrested for their roles in a conspiracy to cheat on the SAT and allow Chinese students to secure fraudulent college admissions based on their ill-gotten scores. It’s only the latest incident to showcase widespread academic dishonesty in Chinese culture. The College Board has repeatedly grappled with plots to cheat on Asian administrations of the SAT, and in 2013 there was a riot in the Chinese city of Zhongxiang when officials tried to prevent cheating on a major test. Even at the professional level, China has been wracked with severe plagiarism issues.

The number of students who warrant expulsions for academic reasons could potentially be even higher. Many universities covet Chinese students because they typically pay a full tuition load, and there has been substantial pressure to have professors simply change their standards and teaching methods in order to accommodate Chinese students whose grasp of English is less than advertised.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; cheating; prc; sat; testing
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1 posted on 05/29/2015 7:33:40 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Hmm, I though that Asian students were the best from what I was hearing.


2 posted on 05/29/2015 7:39:14 PM PDT by the_individual2014
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To: markomalley

And that’s just the ones they caught...


3 posted on 05/29/2015 7:41:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: markomalley
Only certain students can cheat and do poorly. And sell drugs, and disrupt the class, and intimidate other students, and...
4 posted on 05/29/2015 7:46:28 PM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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To: markomalley

30% of U.S. students don’t return after their freshman college year.

Only 55% of U.S. students starting college graduate within 6 years.

So we have over a quarter million Chinese students attending colleges here, taking classes in a foreign language, living half a world away from friends and family, and it’s big news that 3% can’t hack it???

Shrug.


5 posted on 05/29/2015 7:46:58 PM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: markomalley
Since the 90's, when tens of thousands of Chinese graduate students came here to get their PhDs, the situation has changed greatly.

Now most (if not all) large US universities are going after Chinese undergraduate students, children of wealthy families who can pay full freight for a US education and the chance of a better life here.

These kids are somewhat different than their parents. They were not raised in poverty, and act more like spoiled American trust-fund babies than like serious students.

This report is not really surprising to me.

BTW, Chinese companies are more and more outsourcing Chinese jobs to Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.

6 posted on 05/29/2015 7:47:50 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: 9thLife

Let me guess ... they ain’t Chinese. ;-)


7 posted on 05/29/2015 7:48:15 PM PDT by doc1019 (Blue lives matter)
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To: markomalley

There used to be a fellow who posted on here from a remote province in China, he was too poor to get a chance to leave China and attend school in the outside world, and probably wouldn’t be able to secure permission from the neighborhood Party snitch in any case. But he and his coworkers’ job was to both arrange for qualifications [presumably bribing Chinese education officials] and also forge documents for wealthier Chinese - the children of Party officials who are allowed to travel abroad- so they could “pass” admissions and get into Canada and from there to the US.

Haven’t heard from him after Google made some deal with China that made it more difficult for a lot of regular Chinese in backwater areas of China from anonymously surfing the webs.


8 posted on 05/29/2015 7:52:18 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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I’m surprised they didn’t try to make them US citizens. Perfect Democrat voters.


9 posted on 05/29/2015 7:52:51 PM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: markomalley

Cheating by the Chinese is not surprising. First, the pressure to succeed in intense and second, cheating is part of their culture going back centuries.


10 posted on 05/29/2015 7:53:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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To: markomalley
sterling credentials that are built upon cheating, plagiarism, rote memorization, and paying others to write essays or take tests.

Who do they think they are, the Kennedys?

11 posted on 05/29/2015 7:56:20 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: Steely Tom

In Iowa, a Chinese student at the University of Iowa apparently killed his Chinese girlfriend from Iowa State University. He then scrammed back to China and disappeared. The US does not have an extradition treaty with China.

Chinese students make up about ten percent of U of I and ISU.


12 posted on 05/29/2015 7:57:48 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: the_individual2014

Asian students (China+India+SE Asia) are high achievers. Lately there is a surge of Chinese students of rich Chinese parents. Those students are more interested in having a good time.


13 posted on 05/29/2015 7:59:59 PM PDT by entropy12 (My Fearless forecast for Iowa Caucuses: Walker will win with a big margin.)
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"Massive Numbers Of Chinese Students Expelled From US Schools"

They don't make them like they use to.
14 posted on 05/29/2015 8:00:42 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: markomalley

I’ve had some experience with Chinese students over here. My impression is that they might be very bright or talented but the language barrier (especially written language) is a huge hurdle for them. Frankly the same would be the case for American students if they were studying in China.

I worked with an extremely bright and talented German person once. Stellar. Good spoken English. But you could not understand a thing she wrote. Even short emails were indecipherable. The company could not let her write to clients at all.

Think about the German language? How big of a hurdle would it be to learn to be fluent in spoken and written German so that you could be on par with native German speakers? A few can do this but not many.

So I can see why the Chinese students would hire someone to write their papers for them. Maybe they are dictating their thoughts and the native English speaker writing them would make them grammatically and linguistically correct? I can see that happening.


15 posted on 05/29/2015 8:03:55 PM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: jjotto
I know a Chinese lady who's younger sister came over to go to a second-rate college in the deep South for her undergraduate degree. She (the sister) was murdered at an off-campus restaurant frequented by marginal types (it is believed that she went there out of ignorance of American risky places).

After a long investigation (a couple years worth) the local police, working with the FBI, announced they had a suspect. It was a Chinese tough-guy, who's whereabouts were of course unknown. He was linked with violence against other women as well.

This was quite a while ago, maybe fifteen years. I haven't heard any more about it.

The girl's older sister is married, and is very sweet and intelligent. A high achiever.

16 posted on 05/29/2015 8:04:55 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: the_individual2014
Hmm, I though that Asian students were the best from what I was hearing.

Some of that is skimming the cream off the top. If only the very best of the top Chinese technical schools can come to the US, then the Chinese students will be very smart. Some Chinese undergrad students already had the equivalent of a bachelor's or even master's degree before coming here for a bachelor's degree. But now if anyone with money can come you don't have that filtering.

I noticed the same thing in college. By far the least impressive students were the Arabs. They had cash but had never bothered to study in their lives.

17 posted on 05/29/2015 8:05:16 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: markomalley
It's common and the Educational Testing Services has warned universities. Nothing new here.. just google.

gre cheating china

And it ain't just Red China.

18 posted on 05/29/2015 8:10:19 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: markomalley

Ha, so some of these vaunted Chinee ‘students’ will be as useless in the real world as our liberal puke grads. Oh, wait, most of the Chinee are rich, so they won’t have to work, they’re just looking for the sheepskin as a wall-hanger. Got it...


19 posted on 05/29/2015 8:11:43 PM PDT by W. (Animals are much stupider since Noah's Ark, because of inbreeding.--Oglaf)
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To: the_individual2014

>> Asian students

That of course requires regional qualification.

Being Chinese isn’t a free intellectual ticket, but if I’m not mistaken, they tend to trend well on the Bell Curve. Of course I could be mistaken given my limited perspective.


20 posted on 05/29/2015 8:12:57 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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