[Old Teufel Hunden]

"The way to insure that this wouldn't happen is for those countries to stop whining to the US and other NATO countries to protect them, and defend themselves. We have enough of our own problems from invasion and non-existant borders."

Ummmm.... you realize that the Baltic States are part of NATO and that we are obligated by treaty to defend them. An attack on one NATO member is an attack on all NATO members. Ukraine is not a member of NATO, therefore we had no treaty obligations to defend them. However, they are trying to turn towards Western Europe so therefore it is in our national interests to assist them and there were promises made to them that in order to give up their nukes in the 90's they would be afforded protection by NATO countries.

[grania]

Of course I know those countries are in NATO. What I’m saying is the US and most European nations aren’t even defending our own borders from invasion. Why would any country assume they’d defend them? I repeat, if a country wants to be safe in the horrible times we live in, they should stop whining and depending on treaties, and defend themselves!