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1 posted on 05/25/2015 9:30:31 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 05/25/2015 9:30:52 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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Only healthcare professionals who work closely with terminally ill patients know first-hand the extent and variety of these strange experiences.

The cliche that "healthcare professionals think they're omniscient" seems to be rooted in reality.

3 posted on 05/25/2015 9:33:07 AM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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ping for later


4 posted on 05/25/2015 9:33:36 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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Oh good! Then she can tell us if God really exists.


6 posted on 05/25/2015 9:34:36 AM PDT by uncitizen (The GOPE is bruisin' for a Cruz'n)
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It’s what comes after dying that you have to be prepared for.


7 posted on 05/25/2015 9:35:07 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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Mark


8 posted on 05/25/2015 9:37:55 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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Good post. Makes me want to read the book. I have deaths ahead of me soon and I’d like to see some of this happen for my beloved parents who both have Alzheimer’s.


9 posted on 05/25/2015 9:38:28 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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My mother was on hospice for many months before finally dying peacefully at 94. As her primary caregiver, I came to know the hospice workers and nurses very well.

They have many stories to tell about this subject.

As you might expect, all the hospice workers were all quite devout.

11 posted on 05/25/2015 9:41:09 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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A study like this was done many years ago:

http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Erlendur_Haraldsson/publication/232537867_Deathbed_observations_by_physicians_and_nurses_A_cross-cultural_survey/links/5489973b0cf268d28f0b0319.pdf


13 posted on 05/25/2015 9:42:55 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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I read a story last week about the possibility of “uploading” one’s brain into a computer in the future, with the idea that it would keep the person “alive”. I thought that sounded really wrong, but couldn’t articulate why.

Here it is: “our brains are separate from our consciousness. In other words, the brain may be channeling what some people call the soul, rather than responsible for creating it.”


15 posted on 05/25/2015 9:46:14 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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My Dad passed in 2007 from cancer at age 81. I had moved in with him a few weeks before but wasn't much help with a broken shoulder and my arm in a sling, but we managed. He was a huge man and didn't shrivel up like most since he had no chemotherapy as per his wishes.
He kept trying to apologize for being a bother - that's the kind of man he was. One night he said, "I'm gonna go" and he did right then - his last word was my mother's name who had died 13 years before.
20 posted on 05/25/2015 10:11:16 AM PDT by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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I know when I lost Mom in 2013, I visted her on the last day of her life. She was in a coma and her breathing was not going very well. I left that day, saying to her that "I'll be back, I have to go home and feed the cats and get me something to eat." As I was getting ready, I got the phone call she passed. I think she "knew" that if she passed away with me around, it would be so much more harder on me than what I experienced. It is hard enough. Losing Mom was my greatest fear, even more so than atomic war or ISIS. Even so, there are times she is watching out for me, many times like a guardian angel, I know she saved me from a car wreck and there are times I do have dreams where she comes back and talks to me in person and gives advice. I also need to get my car's timing belt changed and I'm of limited means. I prayed to God, Jesus and even asked Mom to "go to bat for me" on my dilemma and recently, my credit limit was raised. I hate to go into a little more debt by $500 but it is a lot better than having a dead car. I like the saying, "when the door is closed, God opens a window." Maybe it isn't exactly what you want or expected but it is an out.

Lastly, one of my cats who had kidney failure passed away on July 9th, 2004. We did a damn good job keeping her alive with it for 2 and a half years with a good quality of life up until the last week or two. July 8th is my birthday and I thinks she knew it would hurt me a ot for her to pass on that day so I think she "waited" until the 9th.

Some may think this is weird but I had another cat who passed while I was giving him medicine. Mom and I were so hurt even though we knew he was passing and was afraid we accelerated it. I had a very vivid dream where he came back to me and talked to me, I even saw his mouth move like Salem in "Sabrina the Teenaged Witch." (he was a black cat) He said to me, "God does exist and He told all of us cats to vote and send one of us 'down' to let you (me) know we are fine and happy and among the people in your family who have passed." He added, "I was voted to be 'spokes-cat' so here I am." I asked him about, "did we hasten your passing" where he replied, "it didn't matter much, it was my time to go, I could have lasted a day or two later but it was just my time. You dd the right thing or thought you did out of love and that's all you need to think about. We all had good lives with you and we are fine." After that, he said, "I have to go now" I said, "one more minute, I still need to ask where if I'll see all of you again" and he said, "yes" and then left. I know I still feel sad at times but at least I feel a lot better too.
21 posted on 05/25/2015 10:20:56 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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Ping to an excellent and important article.


24 posted on 05/25/2015 10:23:22 AM PDT by zot
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Cat predicts 50 deaths in RI nursing home
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7129952/Cat-predicts-50-deaths-in-RI-nursing-home.html


26 posted on 05/25/2015 10:26:52 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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Excellent article. Thank you for posting.

“...brain may be channelng the soul...”

I attended the Mass in the Catholic cemetery (Our Lady of Angels in Colonie) this morning and the Bishop explained it like this: the timeless (and correct) Catholic teaching is that the soul forms the body rather than visa versa.

Of course, the Bishop articulated this better than I just put it. However, he basically stated that St. Thomas Aquinas articulated this belief in that way: the soul forms the body.

I looked it up, and he is referring to Aquinas’ explanation of hylomorphic unity and it is the opposite of what secularists believe; the brain/body forms the soul.

This perspective in light of the experiences of the caregivers in the article makes perfect sense, especially in consideration of the doctrine of the resurrection of the body that we believe in. The Bishop was explaining that the soldiers who died in battle are not actually dead and living just in memory, but in the sense of the future at the resurrection we will see them in their bodies. Scripture tells us that we are Temples of the Holy Spirit and it makes more sense when understood this way (that the soul forms the body).

The bishop articulated this in the best manner that I have ever heard it explained, and the phenomenon observed by the caregivers and family members in the article as the loved one is nearing death now makes perfect sense in light of the correct theology.


29 posted on 05/25/2015 10:42:09 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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I read this post and feel compelled to tell the story of "my miracle".

I had planned open heart surgery in January 2012 because of a needed valve repair and four coronary artery bypasses. What happen afterwards was not at all planned and altered my life forever.

After surgery, I was sent to ICU from the operating room and two days later, as they were turning me over in bed to do an x-ray, I started having trouble breathing.  I had thrown a pulmonary emboli, a clot, into my lungs.  They put an oxygen mask on me to help me breathe but I continued to have labored breathing.  My wife, bless her heart, was there at my bedside while this was happening.  At one point, she said I pulled the oxygen mask off my face and cried out loud, "I think I'm going to die."  That's when I stopped breathing and my heart stopped beating.  I was in full cardiac arrest in the bed on the ICU ward.  They ushered my wife and all the other patient visitors out of the ICU to the chapel. My wife has been a nurse practitioner for her whole career and she knew my chances of surviving, even in the hospital, were risky.

Amazingly, the chief cardiac surgeon was on the floor at the time and rushed to my side, as did at least 12 other medical personnel to assist the surgeon. He cut my chest back open, cut the wire staples holding my breast bone together and proceeded to perform the miracle that saved my life.  He took my heart into his hands and started hand massaging it until after about 10 minutes, it started beating again. They cleaned me up as best as possible but left my chest open in case my heart stopped again.  Next day they took me back to the OR and put me back on the heart machine to make sure everything was okay. Two days later, they wired my sternum back together, but they could not stitch my chest wound back together because they had opened me up on the ward, which is not sterile.  They were worried about infection. So for two and a half months, I had an open chest wound. It slowly healed shut with the help of a foam vacuum machine. I remained in the hospital for five weeks instead of the normal five days that most heart surgery patients spend. I had two blood transfusions.

Fortunately, I do not remember anything first hand of what I have just told you, including arriving at the hospital for the initial surgery, the cardiac arrest, and nothing of the first two weeks after surgery. I was unconscious most of the time after the arrest because I was heavily medicated. But all that I have told you was relayed to me in detail after the fact by my wife, the surgeons and other medical personnel who were there and involved in the miraculous events when I had expired and was brought back to life.  Several told me later that the experience had a profound affect on themselves personally. I ran into the surgeon who massaged my heart back to life a couple of months after the surgery. He told me that he had performed that manual hear massage several times in his career but I was the first patient who had survived the ordeal. He said it was a true miracle.

I never thought I would have problems when I went in for the open heart surgery. I assumed it would go smoothly. How wrong was I. I cried a lot in the months after surgery, thinking about what had happened and how it has changed my life forever.  I have fully recovered now, but God was not ready for me to go back then.   I must say that I never remember seeing the white light people talk about but I did have a vivid dream for several months after this episode, about God reaching over into the dark abyss and grabbing me by my hair and yanking me back up to life to live a another day.  It was not my time to go. It is somewhat haunting to know you died but are still here to live again.

I thank the Lord and count my blessings everyday for the way things turned out. But for the grace of God, the help of the medical team and the prayers of those around me, I would not be here to tell the story of "my miracle."

31 posted on 05/25/2015 11:04:30 AM PDT by HotHunt
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I’ll never forget the hospice nurse, while in Mom’s room, telling us our mother was “actively dying”. She pointed out several physical characteristics that indicated that to the nurse.

Mom was gone less than two hours later. All of her children were there, hands on, when she passed peacefully.


32 posted on 05/25/2015 11:13:55 AM PDT by moovova
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My uncle Jack died a few years before his father.

When his fathers time came and the family were gathered around his bed “Pop” suddenly sat up in his bed, looked at a high corner of the room, smiled broadly and exclaimed” JACK”! Freaked the fam big time.


37 posted on 05/25/2015 11:32:13 AM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job...)
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When the family leaves the room?

My theory? That is when the nurse increases the morphine drip.


38 posted on 05/25/2015 11:34:06 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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“Oh wow. Oh wow. Oh wow.”


40 posted on 05/25/2015 12:22:58 PM PDT by Obadiah (This is Bravo-6, we have Zips in the wire! I repeat, Zips in the wire.)
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