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Waco shooting: Purple Heart recipient among nine bikers killed
The Guardian ^ | Thursday 21 May 2015 17.24 EDT | Associated Press in Waco

Posted on 05/21/2015 4:16:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

One of nine bikers killed at a shootout outside a Texas restaurant was a Vietnam veteran and Purple Heart recipient whose family members dispute police claims he was in a criminal group.

An Associated Press review of Texas court records and a database maintained by the state department of public safety turned up no criminal history in Texas for Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, of New Braunfels. And his son Vincent Ramirez told the San Antonio Express-News that he was not violent.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biker; copcycle; killed; purpleheart; racism; racistbikerrepublic; racistbikers; racists; twinpeaks; waco; wacobikers
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To: JJ_Folderol

Comment section on one of the discussion forums mentioned this:

“Witnesses reported hearing as many as 100 rounds fired from 30 guns.”

Now, how would a witness be able to know how many guns?

I think I remember hearing a number of police officers at something over 20.


61 posted on 05/21/2015 5:17:30 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Click the following link and scoll down to the May 17 date and you’ll see the
event was scheduled. Click the link in the 17th date box and it open the invite.

http://localendar.com/public/ucoctadmin


62 posted on 05/21/2015 5:17:45 PM PDT by deport
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To: CivilWarBrewing

That was to go along with the CS Gas.


64 posted on 05/21/2015 5:18:17 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

>> Guys with guns on motorcycles.. A very mobile and organized force. <<

Actually not very organized. Melee yes, squad combat no.

Despite all the old biker movies, individual heroics (or stupidity) aren’t going to be terribly effective against combat troops trained for terrorism and insurgency.


65 posted on 05/21/2015 5:20:36 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: Tired of Taxes

No, I thought I had the link, but it appears what I downloaded was the Police audio during the assault. I have that link.

I read that the video was from the parking lot and that there was not video inside the restaurant. Except one small section near the office. Not sure I could find the article that mentioned that. Have looked at a lot of them over the past couple of days.

The owner of the restaurant gave copy of the video to AP. Protection, he has been taking a blame beating by the Waco police.

I’ll go back and review what I saved as links.

The press coverage has been maddening how they change the script as they go along. Same with the Waco police.

By the way, the Waco police was given the parking lot video from the very beginning. It is explained in the article about the video.

I am concerned we are seeing the “agenda” that someone is feeding in the press.


66 posted on 05/21/2015 5:23:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: DesertRhino

No sir, you have done us all the justice of showing us exactly what you stand for.

Not only will you blindly believe everything you read when the circumstances are right, but also, you have more than enough of the characteristics that leftist freaks love to ascribe to conservatives.


67 posted on 05/21/2015 5:24:32 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd; DesertRhino; lapsus calami; Squantos; Travis McGee; don-o; caww; ...

Nice try but that’s a strawman....btw...i courtesy pinged your girls

However if proven cops didn’t shoot these guys or proof they fired on cops first

Hell I’ll do a vanity admitting my error

Check my posting history

I admit when I’m wrong and I don’t talk tough and hide behind anonymity

I can ping at least a dozen fellow Freepers vouch for my veracity...it’s not coincidence the most offensive here are unknown freepers

The nasty Freepers here are rarely known....like the south bashing posse....some of whom btw are here on your side in this affair

NEVER DISCLOSE any frame of reference

If I’m wrong call me out cause I hope I am wrong

I like Texas....lived there as a boy....as a young man....one ex fiancée...from Anson.....Dallas is my big city go to.....kinfolks in Upshur county...my cousin was a Cowboy Cheereader....and we had a big lease northwest of Burnet for a decade......my Goddaughter is in Lumberton....my incredibly dependable right hand man is from Galveston

And Squantos is in panhandle

I got plenty reasons to adore Texas

And I don’t hate cops....I’d like to think they were cool....I know plenty who are but I do question the militarization and so many black guns these days

It just smells like Weaver and Waco....btw...some of your bream here openly applaud Waco...I find that incredible....even back then and FR had more libs than now....it was scorned

So I’d love to be wrong


68 posted on 05/21/2015 5:25:03 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: dp0622

they werent the only armed white “gangs” in town that day.. doont forget the american legion and vfw.


69 posted on 05/21/2015 5:25:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I think offhand simply the cops were trigger happy

And it jumped off and now they are controlling release of facts to their advantage

By blanket overcharging and bond craziness and confiscations pell mell

Regardless whether justified kills or not.....most of the overcharging etc will fall apart


70 posted on 05/21/2015 5:27:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: Texas Fossil
Thanks for posting the link.

From the article: Published reports indicate that Waco and McLennan County could realize more than $3 million from the sale of motorcycles and cars seized at the crime scene”….

Who is the criminal organization, now?

71 posted on 05/21/2015 5:29:36 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: deport

TY! The caller mentioned the calender as well!


72 posted on 05/21/2015 5:30:34 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: freepersup; DesertRhino
I'm thinking as the story continues to fall apart there will be a bunch of freepers who will quietly change their handles in shame, but not this one:

The Waco cops did fantastic. And the prosecutors and judge are matching them.

I think this one's the real deal -- cops never lie and are always justified, and if you're not a cop or their family or friends, then you're probably a criminal like all the rest.

They'll be kapos when needed.
73 posted on 05/21/2015 5:30:52 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: conservativejoy

Rookies gotta train somewhere....

Eric Holder cut his teeth and incinerated women and children there.


74 posted on 05/21/2015 5:32:44 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: skeeter

Bttt


75 posted on 05/21/2015 5:32:56 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: Tired of Taxes

From another mentioned website:

Waco Massacre Aftermath

http://www.agingrebel.com/12889

“Swanton seems committed to a version of events in which only four of the 22 police officers on scene discharged their weapons.”


76 posted on 05/21/2015 5:34:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: treetopsandroofs
I'm thinking as the story continues to fall apart there will be a bunch of freepers who will quietly change their handles in shame

I wouldn't count on it. Most if not all these jackboot lickers are shameless despicable little people.

77 posted on 05/21/2015 5:34:43 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Ted Cruz for President ... all others are cheap imitations)
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To: treetopsandroofs

No kidding

There will always be willing JBTBLs

Willing to do what’s best for the state and security


78 posted on 05/21/2015 5:35:00 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: treetopsandroofs

That’s right! I’d forgotten about Holder’s role in that. Boy, he really trained well for Fast and Furious!


79 posted on 05/21/2015 5:35:50 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: DesertRhino
"The Waco cops did fantastic. And the prosecutors and judge are matching them."

Weren't you on a similar thread calling for the indiscriminate killing of bikers, so as to send a message? What happened to due process? If you think it's okay to kill Americans without due process, like I said before, you are one sick puppy.

Pray you never find yourself on the receiving end of the treatment you would suggest for other Americans.

80 posted on 05/21/2015 5:36:44 PM PDT by semaj (.People get ready, Jesus is coming!)
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