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Waco shooting: Purple Heart recipient among nine bikers killed
The Guardian ^ | Thursday 21 May 2015 17.24 EDT | Associated Press in Waco

Posted on 05/21/2015 4:16:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

One of nine bikers killed at a shootout outside a Texas restaurant was a Vietnam veteran and Purple Heart recipient whose family members dispute police claims he was in a criminal group.

An Associated Press review of Texas court records and a database maintained by the state department of public safety turned up no criminal history in Texas for Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65, of New Braunfels. And his son Vincent Ramirez told the San Antonio Express-News that he was not violent.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biker; copcycle; killed; purpleheart; racism; racistbikerrepublic; racistbikers; racists; twinpeaks; waco; wacobikers
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I think there's a whole lot the police aren't revealing just yet, and until this investigation is completed we're all simply “supposing” on information we can't be certain are facts.....especially with the media reporting as they do today ....it's all about getting out “something” and be first to report so. Reporters no longer get a story...they create one with what they have even if it's wrong.

This may very well have to do with the the racketeering, drug pushing, human trafficking etc. that at least one outlaw group, who was there, is known to be heavily into.

121 posted on 05/21/2015 7:41:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: mabarker1
Geez, this is starting to look like the batfe crew from the Branch Davidian screw up was hired by the Waco PD.

The fags at BATF blew the initial raid, but it was the FBI who murdered the hundred folks that were left including 17 children.

 

122 posted on 05/21/2015 7:45:36 PM PDT by zeugma (Are there more nearby spiders than the sun is big?)
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To: wardaddy
You've mentioned cops murdering/assassinating as if that's what happened. You don't know that...nobody knows yet what really happened there no matter what it looked likes or seems to outsiders. The fact that they do have video...and likely more than a couple...will tell some of the story more accurately then us pushing buttons behind a screen.
123 posted on 05/21/2015 7:45:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: azsportsterman
Unless you have some proof otherwise, you should be more careful with that brush your wielding.

Bull hockey...if you hang with dogs, expect to get fleas....there are THOUSANDS of cycle riders in Texas who didn't hang with these losers....trash is trash no matter what you call it....trash.

124 posted on 05/21/2015 7:48:58 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: Patriot Babe

According to this:

Http://www.topix.com/forum/city/washington-dc/TOTVPOUCNE7ORRNCC/p18

Horiuchi is retired, living a good life on a well deserved government pension.


125 posted on 05/21/2015 7:49:35 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: freepersup
Are you espousing that the organizational meeting at Twin Peaks was only attended by outlaw MCs?

Organizational meeting?????????..........yeah, I'm espousing that.

126 posted on 05/21/2015 7:51:22 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: wardaddy
cops were strapped down for days waiting on this and had no cams

If it's true that there were no bodycams, then this was nothing but a military operation being carried out by police.

127 posted on 05/21/2015 7:53:11 PM PDT by zeugma (Are there more nearby spiders than the sun is big?)
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To: zeugma

All the same in my book.

I live in Austin at the time.

The whole OP was a f-up from the start.


128 posted on 05/21/2015 7:53:21 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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To: terycarl
"Bull hockey...if you hang with dogs, expect to get fleas....there are THOUSANDS of cycle riders in Texas who didn't hang with these losers....trash is trash no matter what you call it....trash."

Please inform.

The spectrum of people who ride motorcycles in Texas range from virginal nun prospects on pink Vespas to patched wanted killers on stolen Knuckleheads.

Tell me exactly where along this line the police should be able to shoot the riders in the head without due process.

I used to respect FReepers with 1998 join dates. Not so much after tonight.

129 posted on 05/21/2015 8:04:08 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (Enter something.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The whole “damned” country is becoming inured and accustomed to violence of various sorts.

IMHO the root cause is TV, movies, Hollywood...

I have some scars, special license plates and the VA sends me a modest rebate from my income tax each month. I have seen violence.

It is nothing like the movies. I ask people if they have ever been in a fender bender car accident? Now tell me about a movie that cranks you up the same or close to that few seconds of a wreck?

Actual violence is not something you want to experience, ever.
Actual violence would not sell, so it is candy coated to sell. The 'hero' is shot in the abdomen or has a sucking chest wound, back on line in two days.No mention of a colostomy bag, no permanent tracheostomy tube...

Nothing wrong with selling, but many cannot separate real from fiction.

They walk among us, too many times I was asked if my guys played Russian roulette!

I try to explain the concept of a metaphor, but inside want to do them some some actual violence.

130 posted on 05/21/2015 8:11:03 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: wardaddy; skeeter; CivilWarBrewing; Salamander; Jack Black; don-o; Travis McGee; Texas Fossil

131 posted on 05/21/2015 8:14:05 PM PDT by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FR. Donate Monthly or Join Club 300! God bless you all.)
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To: Texas Fossil

The stink is over-whelming


132 posted on 05/21/2015 8:14:14 PM PDT by BOOHA
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To: BOOHA

Agree.

Here is where I saw the clips of the CCTV of parking lot.

“Waco restaurant video shows bikers, others seeking cover”

http://news.yahoo.com/wife-biker-inmate-arrested-texas-innocent-072105757.html video clips from parking lot & shooting.


133 posted on 05/21/2015 9:17:57 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: zeugma

Found the link within the story.

Here is where I saw the video clips of parking lot.

“Waco restaurant video shows bikers, others seeking cover”

http://news.yahoo.com/wife-biker-inmate-arrested-texas-innocent-072105757.html

..video clips from parking lot & shooting.

The link was in the article I referenced.


134 posted on 05/21/2015 9:20:31 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Of course they are, it is not about the event, it is about the agenda.

Who’s agenda? Not sure.

Rogue DA? Rogue POLs? Someone in DC? (stretch)

Either the Waco Police & SWAT team really screwed up, or there is someone directing from background.


135 posted on 05/21/2015 9:23:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

You can forget a riot in Waco. Not going to happen.


136 posted on 05/21/2015 9:25:06 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: TigersEye

In the wrong place at the wrong time.

It is always the Wrong Place anywhere near a SWAT Team CF.

Headshake.


137 posted on 05/21/2015 9:26:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: bolobaby

“Waco restaurant video shows bikers, others seeking cover”

http://news.yahoo.com/wife-biker-inmate-arrested-texas-innocent-072105757.html video clips from parking lot & shooting.

video clips from CCTV footage given to AP.


138 posted on 05/21/2015 9:29:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: JLS

I believe they are in total CYA mode and they really screwed up.

You cannot accidently shoot 27 people and kill 9, by accident.


139 posted on 05/21/2015 9:30:51 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

This was buried in the article about the CCTV video.

“Waco restaurant video shows bikers, others seeking cover”

http://news.yahoo.com/wife-biker-inmate-arrested-texas-innocent-072105757.html

..video clips from parking lot & shooting.

Not the entire CCTV video, but clips from copy given to AP.


140 posted on 05/21/2015 9:33:34 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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