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To: redleghunter
“Given the full context of Francis, your assessment is wishful thinking.”

No. I have found reporters take a piece of something the Pope says, leaving out parts of it, so it makes a sensational wrong statement. Pope Francis made a statement some time ago about welcoming homosexuals into the church if they were willing to stop their sinful life. What was reported, was, “The Pope Welcomes Homosexuals” and the public crucified the Pope for saying that because they didn't have the whole statement. So, I only believe what the Pope actually says, not an individual’s “idea” of what he said.

All sinners, which is all of us, are welcome into the Catholic church if they believe in the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, and stop their egregious sinful habits. The church is for sinners who believe and want to live a Christian life.

313 posted on 05/22/2015 9:18:58 AM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella; daniel1212; metmom; Elsie; Gamecock; CynicalBear; boatbums; RnMomof7
Pope Francis made a statement some time ago about welcoming homosexuals into the church if they were willing to stop their sinful life.

Please cite the above claim. Instead we have this:

Westen also pointed to the meeting last year between Pope Francis and Italy’s best-known pro-homosexual priest as a case where an opportunity to send a powerful message of mercy instead spread confusion, because of the lack of clarity.

During that meeting, the pope concelebrated mass with the priest and afterwards met with him and kissed his hands. Had the clarification come from the Vatican that the pope was calling the priest to repentance, said Westen, he and all the pro-life and pro-family leaders in the room would have rejoiced “with tears” at the meeting. But that clarification was not given. “The Holy Father made a beautiful gesture which was in all likelihood a call to repentance,” said Westen, “but when asked for a clarification we were not told it was a call to repentance.”

Westen quoted Christ’s statement from Luke 5, after the Pharisees criticized him for eating with sinners, as an example of such clarity. Christ had said: “I did not come for the just but for sinners, to call them to repentance.”

‘Massive confusion’ in wake of Vatican miscommunications, Synod requires clarification: LifeSiteNews co-founder

This shows a lack of clarity on the Pope's approach to homosexuals. Never has the word 'repentance' been used by the Pope or Vatican. Above article makes this clear.

So, I only believe what the Pope actually says, not an individual’s “idea” of what he said.

Then you should be just as concerned as Mr. Westen as their has not been one clearly defined sentence from this Pope.

All sinners, which is all of us, are welcome into the Catholic church if they believe in the Father, the Son, the Holy Ghost, and stop their egregious sinful habits. The church is for sinners who believe and want to live a Christian life.

Yes the operative word for your statement is 'repentance.' As I pointed out (unless you have a different source) the Pope never used that word with regards to homosexuals or even in meeting with the pro-sodomite priest in Italy. You should be demanding clarity from your shepherds. If they refuse then they are false shepherds and their father is not the Father in Heaven.

314 posted on 05/22/2015 9:30:40 AM PDT by redleghunter (1 Peter 1:3-5)
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To: Marcella
No. I have found reporters take a piece of something the Pope says, leaving out parts of it, so it makes a sensational wrong statement.

I'd think that by reply #313 that SOME one would have gotten the CORRECT version and posted it here.

323 posted on 05/22/2015 12:06:14 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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