Posted on 05/19/2015 1:44:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Wouldn’t work. Both ISIS and the Baath party are Sunni.
Because it’s full of Iraqis?
Just spitballing here, but.....bush’s fault?
Premature withdrawal is as dangerous in war as it is in sex.
In a perfect world this would end with the last Sunni and Shite dying in a Mexican standoff. Delenda est Islam.
Do the various tribes over there believe in Iraq the way that we believe (or used to believe) in America? I think not.
We’re well on our way to tribalism right here in the USA.
Ok the French are officially off the surrender monkey hook.
You think North American and European
countries are corrupt? Yes, but I’ve
lived overseas. Most of the world is
out to grab whatever they can for
themselves. Who wants to die for
those guys’ retirement homes in
South Florida?
On the other hand, the Obama Administration wants to wipe out any loyal, on ISIS radical Sunni Iraqi Military to pave the way for Iran to take over.
The Obama game plan is to divide Iraq into the Sunni sector controlled by ISIS al -Qaeda/ Muslim Brotherhood radicals and the Iranian Revolutionary Guards dominated Shiite Radicals in the Shiite sectors of Iraq.
The loyal Iraqi troops are caught in the crossfire.
“Do the various tribes over there believe in Iraq the way that we believe (or used to believe) in America? I think not.”
Nope, “Iraq” was an idea imposed on them by the British and maintained by not very scrupulous governments. They may not prefer whatever uncertain alternative happens after “Iraq” though, that’s probably the best we can hope fo.
Hmm, the way you formatted that makes it look like you were writing a haiku :)
They had too much of the Obama war lessons of leading from behind.
You can buy people willing to wear a uniform and collect a paycheck.
You can’t buy a willingness to fight.
You’re dealing with a culture that can pivot on a dime depending on a situation, which way the wind is blowing. If the wind were blowing against IS, they would go that way.
“”The ones to be blamed for this are the government and the local authorities in Ramadi,” said a police colonel who fled the city on Sunday, in an interview with the Guardian. “The army dont have the fighting spirit. They were there waiting for the Islamic State to attack. They are poorly equipped compared to the Islamic State. We are fighting with guns and pistols while the Islamic State has Humvees and IEDs and suicide bombers.””
Well, I can see they don’t have a fighting spirit but the Humvees, weapons and tanks were once Iraqi before the Iraqi army threw them away in their haste to quit the battlefield.
With rare exceptions, Arab nations fail to develop and maintain modern armies. Among other common failings, Arab armies scorn realistic training, technical expertise, maintenance, and logistics, do not have an effective NCO corps, are top heavy with officers, and are riddled with corruption and political cliques.
5.56mm
Stalin and his thugs knew how to keeps pukes fighting in the front. Behind the front line was another line ready to shoot anyone who retreated.
One problem is that the notion of Iraq as a nation is false- at best, it was a region within the Ottoman Empire carved out by the League of Nations and doled out to some Arabs as part of the spoil of WWI. The region itself has spent more time as part of some empire or other than not, and it is sort of hard to have a sense of nationhood when no real nation exists there.
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