BIKER TRUTHERS EMERGE CALLING WACO SHOOTOUT A ‘POLICE MASSACRE’

BREITBART BIG GOVERNMENT ^ | MAY 19, 2015 | LEE STRANAHAN

[onyx]

A website widely read by bikers called “The Aging Rebel” has published an alternative account of what happened during Sunday’s bloody shootout in Waco, Texas. The article titled The Waco Police Massacre brings out a number of details not previously published and also presents the controversial theory that event was essentially a police ambush.

[wardaddy]

Good post

I was pretty clear earlier comparing inner city predators and biker gangs and genocide justifications

empirically speaking it's pretty obvious who deserves the Ustashi combover most isn't it?...by that measure

keyboard commandos talk garbage about killing bikers pell mell cause they are bad

yet they won't touch the real threats....one i deal with all the time

meanwhile bikers leave me alone and if my car breaks down in front of their clubhouse my odds are better than in the hood

it's just another case of sissies afraid to tackle the real issue but bad white guys are fair game

especially with all that white supremacy icon adorning their skin and colors

[kiryandil]

I’ve forgotten more about gathering information than you’ll ever know.

[Pelham]

“keyboard commandos talk garbage about killing bikers pell mell cause they are bad”

It’s Dirty Harry time for some keyboard commandos because bikers try to look frightening and usually succeed. But only a few are as scary as they look.

If your car broke down near their clubhouse they’re more likely to get it running than to mug you. But if you were on a bike they liked who knows....

[Salamander]

I am aware that if I were at some general event with a mixed 99%/1% attendance and it somehow went to hell and I got shot, some might group me into the “public service” category, simply because I was there and have a bike.

Bottom line is that these “scary people” have treated me better, protected and loved me more than my own flesh and blood.

Even the ones whose names I don’t even know, who jumped to my defense, simply because they considered me “one of them”.

If my life has taught me anything, it’s that the best can usually be found amongst those that “decent people” consider the worst, be it animals or people.

In my world, at least, the Good Folk wear masks.

I prefer the company of those who don’t.

I find it bitterly ironic that no “bad person” has ever done me harm.

It was -always- the “upright and decent” who tore me apart.

I can’t imagine how anyone here would cope with me in the real world.

For better or worse, what I am “here”, I am everywhere.

[but possibly even more obnoxious, in Real Life]

:D

[Salamander]

OTOH, if you find a stranded, broke down biker and help him, you get lifetime protection, apparently.

;)

[Pelham]

Mongols vs Hells Angels 2002

A “biker riot” in the middle of a casino. A biker friend of mine was in town with his wife. Not a member of these gangs, just a Harley Rider who sorta looks the part.

http://usridernews.com/2011/04/how-the-river-run-riot-changed-the-laughlin-river-run/

[ansel12]

Nam's Angels 1970 ‧ Thriller/Action ‧ 1h 35m 5.6/10·IMDb 3.1/5·Amazon.com 39%·Rotten Tomatoes 6/10·Letterboxd The CIA sends motorcyle outlaws (William Smith, Adam Roarke) on armored choppers to Cambodia to rescue an agent. Initial release: 1970

[wardaddy]

That’s a helluva view coming down the mountain from Kingman into Bullhead city at night with the lights

Really something spectacular

Was there almost a year ago....110 at 11pm

[wardaddy]

Hear hear

I asked same thing

Crickets

I smell fear

[21twelve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5euYoAy4DL4

Found video of the cops shooting the motorcycle guys. (Okay - not really - but I bet it is pretty similar!)

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

This played out just exactly as their past encounters...violence and death.

In Canada, bikers are a notorious problem, because nobody opposes them. The hell's angels (and their associates) have a powerful PR machine and they have countless apologists painting them as something they are not.

The result is that criminal bikers are worshiped as demigods by ignorant citizens. It's a point of honor for a typical french-Quebecois idiot to be a fan of the Hell's angels. Criminal biker gangs in Canada are responsible for hundreds of murders. One hell's angel recently arrested in Panama killed 22 people. There's a case of a hell's angel from Quebec, (Yves Trudeau) who admitted to killing 43. As far as I know he's walking around a free man. Besides murder, only other thing they do is sell drugs. Entire towns are controlled by them. Too bad the cops up there are not Texans. Massacring a few dozen of these worthless criminal bastards would do a lot of good for society. Why the f- do law-abiding citizens need to live with this crap in their cities?

[Ethan Clive Osgoode]

They are kind of like ISIS going into town pushing people around trying to be tough.

They are exactly like terrorist groups. Biker gangs in Canada are notorious for planting bombs. They should be handled the same as the islamic terrorists in Garland were.

[Smokin' Joe]

Not everyone there was a Banditos MC member. If the police did a summary motorcycle seizure, they took motorcycles from people who likely don't belong to outlaw clubs and who were not involved in the fracas.

If your next door neighbor embezzles money, does that give the police the right to seize your account? If he steals a car, can the police take yours?

[Smokin' Joe]

It'd be like showing up at Sturgis with a (MC name deleted) number on your cases...some clubs mark them, and your story better match the previous owner's.

Live humbly, and thieves of any ilk tend to ignore you.

[Smokin' Joe]

I have ridden with patch holders from Canada, in the States and up there (not a member, just rode together). At the time, we were raising money for Toys for Tots.

I know, just evil.

YMMV, but you paint with too broad a brush.

Yes, there are some very serious badasses up there, but not everyone who rides belongs to those clubs.

[Rodamala]

Excellent post. I have a similar take.

[lapsus calami]

 

 

You're sure read a lot into what folks say

 

Lol - look who's talking.

 

You posted, I simply responded.

 

You posted what you claim is your reality where you're at, I posted the reality of what I've dealt with where I'm at right back.

 

Now you respond with a butthurt lecture, pinging a whole gang while you're at it, like that's supposed to help impress me or something?

 

You know, I don't give a crap about your resume, your life's story, philosophy on life or any of that other blah blah, particularly since there is no way to verify any of it.

 

If you expect me to post in kind like this is some kinda who-has-the-biggest-dick contest, forget it, it ain't happening.

 

If I bothered you so bad that you had to stay up until 2-3am, depending on which time zone you are in if you actually are where you claim you are, to write out and post that ramble, that's your malfunction for you to work out, not mine.

 

 

[Svartalfiar]

Bottom line.
Someone broke “the Code” and started a fight at a neutral meet. The cops were there, it spilled into the parking lot, and weapons were brandished. People got killed putting it down.

That's where my money would be at.

[Aleya2Fairlie]

“There is more to this than meets the eye.
And we will probably never hear all the facts.”

Amen to that! No matter how deplorable these bikers were; the fact that they were used as pawns is even more so. “Just look how diligent we are in protecting the public from biker thugs. Don’t look at the carnage we allow to go on daily in numerous cities in America without so much as blinking an eye! And don’t you dare bring up the difference in looting, burning, flash mobs and the knock out game and a biker meeting! That would be racist. Just look at how many thugs we took down at a Texas restaurant. Don’t dare wonder why hundreds have been video taped attacking police but were never “caught”.

Yep! Something stinks to high heaven, but we will most likely never know.

And, just for the record. I’m one of those that think Waco was a power trip on the part of the ATF.

[stylin_geek]

You do know how to cut to the heart of the matter.

Pretty much my sentiments too.

Although, I cannot speak to biker gangs as my knowledge of them is only through what I’ve read and what has been reported. Which is a long way of saying I know jack squat about motorcycle gangs.