Posted on 05/18/2015 7:56:56 PM PDT by Rabin
One Marine was killed and 21 others were hospitalized Sunday after an Osprey... had a "hard-landing mishap" at approximately 11:40 a.m. local time.
Built by Boeing Co. and Bell, a unit of Textron Inc., the Osprey program was nearly scrapped after a history of mechanical failures and two test crashes that killed 23 Marines in 2000.
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Vortex ring state?
Well, I plan to avoid them for a spell.
RIP.
I had a conversation about this bird just the other day. He defended its technology. I agreed, but attacked the moronic thinking that it was deployable and safely so for troops.
Redundancy is a key facet of military flight systems. Same goes for powerplants. This is the defect in the F35 (among others).
Remarkable in conception, it should never have been granted anything but an ‘X’ model.
With next-gen materials, the tech is right around the corner. The first truly successful VTOL of this type will be jet-powered and have twin jet engines per ‘wing’...it’s about the physics.
Isaac Newton said it best...
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Prayers up, RIP
Active Duty ping.
Quad rotor VTOL.
PRoven concept. You cna have vertical and still have vertical while one pair starts shifting towards horizontal.
One more thought:
“Hard landing”...lol.
If a ‘crash’ is now described as ‘hard landing’, then the riches bestowed by our economic recovery are best described as a ‘golden shower’...
Also possibly feasible. But the physics of the design make for a monstrosity w/o significant advancement in materials & design.
I sense we’re on the verge of post-chemical-reaction propulsion. 50 years hence is going to be fascinating if we survive (I won’t live to see it).
Didn’t a Chinook have to splash onto an LA beach last week?
Four pivoting minijets? May not have to be enormous.
Sorry to have lost a Marine in this accident.
The Osprey has had so many thousands of hours of successful mission time, especially in Afghanistan, I don’t think we should be too critical of it. But maybe Obama should start flying his expensive MV-22 version of the Osprey instead of reserving it for Bo the dog.
That was a Marine CH-53 near Encinitas
The problem likely encountered here is that the pilot misjudged his approach speed and entered a vortex ring state.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/v-22-vrs.htm
Since this happens close to the ground one possible outcome is in fact, a hard landing.
Yep for sure “hard landing” results in “work place violence” by golly.
Rab.
The result was a truck ride back to depot maintenance.
It didn't involve deaths or the A/C burning to a lump of molten garbage.
Osprey should be named Bumble-Bee.....
It shouldn’t fly but it does and is ugly...
as an old crewchief..is this the same as
“ground effect”
..it amazes me how much easier these things are to fly...They do it ALL by computer and “pilot error”..which ever shows up 1st!!!!
I’d go up in one.
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