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One Marine killed, 21 others hospitalized after Osprey aircraft's hard landing in Hawaii
Fox News ^ | May 18, 2015 | Derrick Perkins

Posted on 05/18/2015 7:56:56 PM PDT by Rabin

One Marine was killed and 21 others were hospitalized Sunday after an Osprey... had a "hard-landing mishap" at approximately 11:40 a.m. local time.

Built by Boeing Co. and Bell, a unit of Textron Inc., the Osprey program was nearly scrapped after a history of mechanical failures and two test crashes that killed 23 Marines in 2000.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: aerospace; marine; moreoldnews; mv22; osprey
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Army Col. Steve Warren told reporters that the incident will not immediately change the way the way Marines and others use the Osprey.

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1 posted on 05/18/2015 7:56:56 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: Rabin

Vortex ring state?


2 posted on 05/18/2015 8:02:20 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Rabin
"Army Col. Steve Warren told reporters that the incident will not immediately change the way the way Marines and others use the Osprey. "

Well, I plan to avoid them for a spell.

RIP.

3 posted on 05/18/2015 8:02:28 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Rabin

I had a conversation about this bird just the other day. He defended its technology. I agreed, but attacked the moronic thinking that it was deployable and safely so for troops.

Redundancy is a key facet of military flight systems. Same goes for powerplants. This is the defect in the F35 (among others).

Remarkable in conception, it should never have been granted anything but an ‘X’ model.

With next-gen materials, the tech is right around the corner. The first truly successful VTOL of this type will be jet-powered and have twin jet engines per ‘wing’...it’s about the physics.

Isaac Newton said it best...

.02


4 posted on 05/18/2015 8:16:20 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Rabin
hard landing... good thing it didn't crash then

Prayers up, RIP

5 posted on 05/18/2015 8:17:46 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Rabin; blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; ...

Active Duty ping.


6 posted on 05/18/2015 8:18:54 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: logi_cal869

Quad rotor VTOL.

PRoven concept. You cna have vertical and still have vertical while one pair starts shifting towards horizontal.


7 posted on 05/18/2015 8:33:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Rabin

One more thought:

“Hard landing”...lol.

If a ‘crash’ is now described as ‘hard landing’, then the riches bestowed by our economic recovery are best described as a ‘golden shower’...


8 posted on 05/18/2015 8:35:00 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Also possibly feasible. But the physics of the design make for a monstrosity w/o significant advancement in materials & design.

I sense we’re on the verge of post-chemical-reaction propulsion. 50 years hence is going to be fascinating if we survive (I won’t live to see it).


9 posted on 05/18/2015 8:41:20 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Chode

Didn’t a Chinook have to splash onto an LA beach last week?


10 posted on 05/18/2015 8:43:27 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: logi_cal869

Four pivoting minijets? May not have to be enormous.


11 posted on 05/18/2015 9:02:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Rabin

Sorry to have lost a Marine in this accident.

The Osprey has had so many thousands of hours of successful mission time, especially in Afghanistan, I don’t think we should be too critical of it. But maybe Obama should start flying his expensive MV-22 version of the Osprey instead of reserving it for Bo the dog.


12 posted on 05/18/2015 9:15:26 PM PDT by polstar123
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To: logi_cal869

Like this?

http://terminator.wikia.com/wiki/HK-Aerial

Also:

http://beforeitsnews.com/science-and-technology/2014/06/boenig-making-darpa-vtol-x-plane-with-all-electric-drive-that-power-ducted-fans-and-it-looks-like-terminator-movie-hunter-killers-and-marvel-quinjets-2704520.html


13 posted on 05/18/2015 9:16:06 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: txhurl

That was a Marine CH-53 near Encinitas


14 posted on 05/18/2015 9:42:52 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: polstar123
The Osprey has a very good operational record since it's teething pains in development.

The problem likely encountered here is that the pilot misjudged his approach speed and entered a vortex ring state.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/v-22-vrs.htm

Since this happens close to the ground one possible outcome is in fact, a hard landing.

15 posted on 05/18/2015 9:48:39 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: logi_cal869

Yep for sure “hard landing” results in “work place violence” by golly.

Rab.


16 posted on 05/18/2015 9:55:23 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: logi_cal869
No kidding. I've been in a helicopter that did a hard landing. It meant the skids/skid tubes were damaged.

The result was a truck ride back to depot maintenance.

It didn't involve deaths or the A/C burning to a lump of molten garbage.

17 posted on 05/18/2015 10:01:16 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason)
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To: Rabin

Osprey should be named Bumble-Bee.....
It shouldn’t fly but it does and is ugly...


18 posted on 05/18/2015 10:16:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: pfflier
vortex ring state.???

as an old crewchief..is this the same as
“ground effect”

..it amazes me how much easier these things are to fly...They do it ALL by computer and “pilot error”..which ever shows up 1st!!!!

19 posted on 05/18/2015 10:28:16 PM PDT by M-cubed ( Their hope is to find a way to pick a nominee who, if elected, would actually stay the course the w)
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To: pfflier

I’d go up in one.


20 posted on 05/18/2015 11:12:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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