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IMF Attempts to Hide True Cost of Renewables by Claiming Fossil Fuels Receive Large Subsidies
breitbart ^ | 5/18/15 | Donna Rachel Edmunds

Posted on 05/18/2015 11:39:11 AM PDT by bestintxas

Fossil fuel companies are benefiting from a global subsidy of £3.4 trillion a year, the International Monetary Fund has declared. The figure dwarfs that of government handouts for renewable energies, which amount to £77 billion a year. But closer inspection reveals the fossil fuel related sum not to be a subsidy, as it amounts to nothing more than the alleged costs to governments of dealing with fossil fuel pollution.

The IMF have insisted that their figure is “shocking,” but “extremely robust”, and are using it to lobby for an end to “subsidies” for fossil fuel companies on both health and economic grounds, the Guardian has reported.

“When the number came out at first, we thought we had better double check this!” said David Coady, head of the IMF’s fiscal affairs department. But he said the broad picture was “extremely robust”, adding: “It is the true cost associated with fossil fuel subsidies.”

His colleague Vitor Gaspar, the IMF’s head of fiscal affairs and former finance minister of Portugal agreed, saying “These estimates are shocking. Energy prices remain woefully below levels that reflect their true costs.”

According to the IMF’s report, cutting the ‘subsidies’ would reduce global emissions by 20 percent, and halve the number of deaths from outdoor pollution, saving around 1.6 million lives a year. They also envisage that making fossil fuel companies pay for pollution would be a “game changer” for governments, who could use the newly released economic resources to pay for education, health and infrastructure.

Lord Nicholas Stern, a climate economist at the London School of Economics, said: “This very important analysis shatters the myth that fossil fuels are cheap by showing just how huge their real costs are. There is no justification for these enormous subsidies for fossil fuels, which distort markets and damages economies,

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fossilfuel; hydrocarbons; imf; methane; opec; petroleum; subsidies; warming
Anything is needed to protect renewables since oil prices are low and global warming is now proved to be scam.
1 posted on 05/18/2015 11:39:11 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Fossil fuels subsidised by $10m every minute, says IMF
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2 posted on 05/18/2015 11:47:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: bestintxas

Tax deductions for expenses are considered “subsidies” by the left for hydrocarbon energy.

This “report” will just arm the little Grubers when they talk about the costs of energy.

Increasing costs for real energy will kill many more than who supposedly die from pollution.


3 posted on 05/18/2015 11:47:47 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (President Walker - Attorney General Cruz (enforcing immigration laws for real))
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To: bestintxas

Total net cost=cost of fuel +(plus) cost of subsidies -(minus) income tax -(minus) federal, state and local sales and excise tax

By this measure we should be using nuclear.


4 posted on 05/18/2015 11:48:04 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: bestintxas

The majority of “subsidies” are nothing more than write-offs of business expenses.


5 posted on 05/18/2015 11:49:09 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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To: bestintxas

I suppose green energy does not get Subsidies..


6 posted on 05/18/2015 11:50:14 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Erik Latranyi

Yep, while the “subsidies” to “green energy” are government grants of taxpayer money, most of which disappears down the rat hole.


7 posted on 05/18/2015 11:50:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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To: Raycpa

Depends on what your goals are.

I assert that the true goals of the energy policy of the left is to produce an economy where only the elite and their mascot supporters can use energy.


8 posted on 05/18/2015 11:52:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: bestintxas
Okay I’ll bite

So in the interest of honesty why don’t we do away with all subsidies to everything.

Every industry big or small makes it or break it on its own merit.

No tax breaks for anything any time. No public/private partnerships. No tax write off for research and development. No loan guarantees. No tax break for moving in to a depressed area. No public utilities commission price controls.

Everybody pays the same flat tax. Everybody gets to set their price wherever the market will allow.

Don’t tell me that someone is getting a special deal unless you want me to eliminate all special deals.

9 posted on 05/18/2015 11:55:53 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

I am with you.

However, bureaucrats and politicians lose their clout under your arrangement.

means it will be difficult to achieve if they cannot hand out favors in exchange of enriching themselves


10 posted on 05/18/2015 6:08:31 PM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: Erik Latranyi; bestintxas
According to the IMF’s report, cutting the ‘subsidies’ would reduce global emissions by 20 percent, and halve the number of deaths from outdoor pollution, saving around 1.6 million lives a year.

Only the science ignorant could believe this statement.

There is no way to quantify the number of deaths caused by pollution. In places like Beijing or Mexico City it is likely that people with underlying diseases like asthma have their death hastened by air pollution but to attribute their deaths totally to pollution is inaccurate at best. Then to go further and to postulate based on those deaths in pollution hell holes that you can deduce pollution deaths worldwide based on that scanty data is simply scientific malpractice. You need data to make statements like that and their simply can not be any to support that statement because people do not life in plastic bubbles where you can say this person died of pollution.

They also envisage that making fossil fuel companies pay for pollution would be a “game changer” for governments, who could use the newly released economic resources to pay for education, health and infrastructure.

No what that would be is a highly regressive tax on the poor. Energy prices “would necessarily skyrocket” under this plan. Energy would be priced out of the range of the poor’s ability to pay. The poor would be condemned to jobs within their walking distance, burning cow patties for cooking, living without electric lights. In essence the poor would be returned to the Stone Age.

These people do not care about the poor or public health it is all about power.

11 posted on 05/19/2015 3:16:08 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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