SEPTA Says Commuter Train Hit By Projectile Just Before Amtrak Train Derailed

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/05/13/septa-says-commuter-train-hit-by-projectile-just-before-amtrak-train-derailed/ ^ | May 13. 2015 | no attribution

[MeshugeMikey]

SEPTA Says Commuter Train Hit By Projectile Just Before Amtrak Train Derailed

[no-to-illegals]

it does resemble a last carousing ....

[Political Junkie Too]

No projectile. Center fuel tank explosion.

-PJ

[RoosterRedux]

Too many coincidences.

Projectile didn't just hit the SEPTA train, it hit and broke the engineers window. Amtrak train derails only a few miles away on same track.

Too soon to jump to conclusions but...

[max americana]

Get used to it. This week alone there was “suspected Subway employee accused..”

[Lonely Bull]

OK. The headline is horribly written. If the point is a separate train, do not imply they are the same, but if the same, do not imply difference.

Well, the headline probably distinguishes between the SEPTA "commuter train" and the "Amtrak train," but I too was a little confused on my first reading.

As the source is a local news site, I wonder if someone from the area would've understood the headline sooner, especially if that person would associate SEPTA with "commuter train." When I mentally substituted my own local equivalents, I understood the intention quickly, but someone with no special experience with my area may be confused.

My being reminded that "the source is a local news site" comes primarily via our very site. Members often start threads with a local source that makes a local reference that naturally doesn't mention the state. When the same headline is used here without an added note, though, the lack of a state can be confusing. (My local area has several cities that share names with larger cities in other states or other countries. Even in-state references may be ambiguous: California alone has at least three areas called the "South Bay.")

[Genoa]

It’s never too soon to jump to conclusions. It’s the only exercise some of us ever get.

[RoosterRedux]

Do you have a source. I thought SEPTA trains were electric.

[IYAS9YAS]

Quite a coincidence, though. What does a terrorist do if the first projectile doesn’t cause enough mayhem? Try again. There’ll always be another train.

“Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago: 'Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it's enemy action'.” Auric Goldfinger - in Ian Fleming's Goldfinger

[Genoa]

Do you have a source. I thought SEPTA trains were electric.

Then I say it was septic shock.

[RoosterRedux]

*snicker*

[RoosterRedux]

lol...a little late but I eventually got it.

[MortMan]

We can always fly off the handle, too!

[ilovesarah2012]

What exactly does that mean?

[Genoa]

I find that pushing my luck is good exercise too.

[ilovesarah2012]

No, this can’t be right. I heard on the news this morning the problem is Amtrak needs more money. Just give them more money and this will never happen again.

[MeshugeMikey]

thats what Both Chelsea...and the Obama children are postulating......

[MeshugeMikey]

billions and billions are needed

[Empireoftheatom48]

They are Electric, hence no fire!

[jocon307]

“It broke the engineer’s window around 9:25 p.m.”

That is pretty bad, much worse than just some kid(s) throwing stuff at the train. But I don’t know,could it have been a complete accident, like when a stone hits your car windshield?

What is the status of the engineer of the Amtrack train? I overheard someone in the hall here at work ask that and I’ve been wondering too.

[CedarDave]

not much left of the other trains engine from what I iunderstand. ''as per the train that "survivied" ...

The engine of the derailed train is in very good shape. It's upright and quite a distance from the rest of the wreck. Some relatively minor damage on the lower right front and a cracked windshield but that's it. It uncoupled and was still moving as the rest of the train piled up in back.