This goes for military, FLEAs, LEOs, "contract role players" and "contract operators."
Posted on 05/07/2015 8:31:38 AM PDT by Baynative
An interview from Lars Larson concerning the Jade Helm conspiracy worries.
(Excerpt) Read more at larslarson.com ...
From the Lars Larson Show May 6:
"Army Master Sergeant and former Green Beret Jeff Hinton joined me on Wednesday to put to rest some of the wild conspiracy theories surround the U.S. military exercise Jade Helm 15. MSgt. Hinton says that these operations have been going on for longer than most of these wide-eyed conspiracy theorists have been alive.
We’ve been doing this for the last 50+ years. I’ve been involved in many exercises throughout the United States. One of the biggest reasons it’s in seven states is that we’re trying to flex our muscle as far as training and our ability to conduct missions just like we would in the real world over thousands of miles that the operation is spread over.”
MSgt. Hinton runs ProfessionalSoldiers.com, a “web site owned and operated by Quiet Professionals and dedicated to the Special Forces Soldier and those interested in the SF way of life.”
“I don’t know about you, but this surely doesn’t make me feel any better about this “Operation/Drill.” For years now, our veterans, Christians, patriots, gun owners, constitutionalists, pro-life advocates, small government supporters, small businesses, real journalists in the press, anti-corruption activists, anti-UN Agenda 21 advocates, anti-global warming supporters, anti-war patriots, anti-criminal immigration supporters, have all been targeted by this administration as enemies of the United States, even within government documents. Are we supposed to trust that they have pure intentions now? I surely don’t, especially when they will be training “Interagency Partners.” It’s those “interagency partners” that have been targeting the American People for years. On 11/15/2012 Forbes covered such “drills” in an article titled “How the U.S. Military Would Crush a Tea Party Rebellion” What part of WE SHALL HAVE NO STANDING ARMY don’t you understand? “
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/03/jade-helm-15-is-real-heres-the-proof/#REEbZyPzblMwUYud.99
Let them run their ops in the large eastern cities and leave the Bundy Ranch alone.
Sure. Training & practice on a large scale is fine.
It’s just that when a large segment of the population has a deep-seated distrust of those running the operation, suspicion is warranted. Practicing subjugation of a population is largely indistinguishable from subjugating a population when those in charge want the subjects to not figure it out until it’s too late.
Very well said, Neoliberalnot.
“It’s just that when a large segment of the population has a deep-seated distrust of those running the operation, suspicion is warranted.”
Isn’t this basically the equivalent of saying “but my paranoia is warranted because I’m paranoid”?
Do you guys have organized meetings and discuss these sort of things, or do you just listen to the voices in your head?
“we support the troops” (unless ohdumba is in power)
*spits*
I’m getting pretty sick of this Alex Jones conspiracy crap.
As someone with family members currently serving I find this not only irrational but highly insulting.
We have had a standing army since George Washington served in it.
If you really think men like Christ Kyle are going to come get you...
See a shrink.
They can set up and knock down the straw man that the exercise is some power grab and not simply training all they want but it doesn’t answer the question. What are they training for? They’ve been training for years and years and they have become very well trained for whatever is asked of them on on foreign soil without doing an exercise like this. Training to interface with American local agencies is only good training if you are training to crush a tea party rebellion. Learning how to interface with American civilian agencies does you no good in the middle East.
I would feel a whole lot better about these drills if the government weren’t already saying things about the tea party that apply more to the inner city rioters in Baltimore. And I woudl feel better too if they were actively using federal agencies to target and mute freedom and libery based political groups by attacking their tax status.
And I would feel a whole hell of a lot better if they were not trading amry deserters for a bunch of enemy combatants that have already made their way back to the killing field of ISIS and Iran....
20 years ago I would have laughed at people who are warnign about Jade Helm, today.... I am not laughing at all....
And that fact SCARES the HELL out of me!
> It’s just that when a large segment of the population has a deep-seated distrust of those running the operation, suspicion is warranted. Practicing subjugation of a population is largely indistinguishable from subjugating a population when those in charge want the subjects to not figure it out until it’s too late.
A well-founded distrust after hearing lie after lie coming from the lips of the Muslim infiltrator and watching what he does, not what he says because none of it can be trusted. Hell we still don’t really know who he really is or where he REALLY lived growing up or why travelled to Pakistan during the 80’s and disappeared off the grid for awhile. He claims to be a Chistian yet wears a ring that says there is no other god other than Allah? He puts out a birth certificate online thats proven to be a fraud then the only person who claims to have seen his real birth certificate dies in a plane crash in the ocean and all the other passengers escape unscathed and unharmed while she dies? C’mon!
Operation Jade Conditioning
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3271355/posts
First, let’s cover what Joint Military Exercise Jade Helm 15 is not: it is not a covert plan for the military to conquer the Southwest and institute martial law. And no, the hundreds of special operations troops and thousands of other military personnel taking part in Jade Helm 15 are not bad guys who are out to establish tyranny in America. Those are straw man arguments, posited to be rejected.
But the elimination of the straw men does not mean that Jade Helm 15 is benign. Reality check, please: does anybody reading this seriously believe that President Obama is contemplating dropping thousands of American troops across an area as vast as the space covered by Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen and Egypt? If you believe that, then I will give you a special discount when you buy any two of the eleven New York metro area bridges and tunnels that I currently own.
Many will say, “But the Green Berets have been doing this kind of thing with exercises like Robin Sage for years and years. It’s exactly the same thing. It’s no big deal.” These people are either paid shills, or well-meaning but naïve dupes. Note the motto of Jade Helm 15: “Master the human domain.” From our military to our intelligence agencies to federal law enforcement, Social Network Analysis is a booming field, a field which is now stretched to include imposters and liars paid by the post to influence social media trends. This government-sponsored social media influencing begins in the understandable realm of legitimate foreign counter-terrorism, but today the all-seeing eye is increasingly aimed inward at perceived domestic threats.
FTX Robin Sage and similar legitimate exercises typically take place across a few counties and involve coordination at the sheriff and state police level. The volunteer role-players are often old Special Forces guys or local farmers. One of them that I know was a decorated MACV/SOG hero who for years after his retirement played a mysterious guerrilla chieftain for the newbie Q-coursers. And in a younger age, I ran with a crowd that that pretended to blow up radio towers, bridges and fuel dumps with simulated demolition charges. We also did cross-country movements and escape and evasion training exercises in and out of uniform with a variety of weapons. This was done with the knowledge of the local authorities, to avoid people getting shot due to misidentification when crossing public and private spaces.
But Robin Sage and other training exercises were never scaled up to become regional show-stopping extravaganzas spread across six large Western states, requiring real-time coordination between multiple governors, state police departments, county and city law enforcement jurisdictions, federal law enforcement agencies, and active duty military units from all branches of the service. No, Jade Helm is not Robin Sage. It’s not even Robin Sage on steroids.
Will there be Robin Sage elements to Jade Helm? Of course. Embedded reporters will no doubt be sending back live video, visually establishing the overtly benign and beneficial impact of the exercise as Green Berets and SEALs freefall and fast-rope into their insertion points. An analysis of some of the information gleaned from the Jade Helm 15 informational packet suggests that some of the spec-ops troops will participate in cross-country movements of greater than fifty miles, humping rifles and rucks from Texas into New Mexico among other land routes. But that camo-paint and boot-leather Robin Sage visual is just camouflage for the genuine objectives of Jade Helm 15, which in my opinion are twofold:
First: conditioning Americans to accept increasingly frequent and intrusive military and paramilitary police actions up close and personal. These will include low-altitude over-flights by military aircraft at all hours, plus roadblocks, checkpoints and denied out-of-bounds areas declared during so-called “realistic military training exercises” in and around Anytown, USA. Some of the military participants might be dressed as civilians, or even as enemy terrorists—foreign or domestic. That is to say, the troops will not necessarily be identifiable to John Q. Public as good old G.I. Joe. Instead, they might be dressed up like Jihad John, or even Redneck Jake. We will be told to mind our business, stay indoors, and trust those in authority who can see “the big picture.”
“Hey Martha, what’s all that noise and commotion? It sounds like World War Three is breaking out across the highway downtown!”
“Oh, don’t worry, George. The Army is just doing another urban warfare drill. I saw it on TV.”
Google keywords like “military drill training exercise urban warfare helicopters” and see how many of our cities have already been treated to simulated “Black Hawk Down” battles, complete with booming explosions, midnight helicopters swooping at rooftop level, and plenty of ratatat-tat. Step by step we are being conditioned to living in a battlefield state of mind. Full dress rehearsals for all-out urban warfare are becoming the new normal in the Land of the Free.
To what purpose? Well, to what purpose does the chef slowly turn up the heat under the frog pot? If and when the time comes that the federal government decides to eliminate some pesky nests of sedition in the name of national security, folks living just a few miles away will simply yawn and change television channels, placid as cows chewing cud. Operation Jade Conditioning: mission accomplished.
The second objective of Joint Military Exercise Jade Helm 15 is to practice simultaneously operating all of the control levers of armed federal power on American soil, from major military units and federal law enforcement agencies down to the state police and local law enforcement. (Posse Comitatus? Heavens, no. It’s just a training exercise!)
When the time comes to eliminate those pockets of bitterly-clinging dead-enders standing in the way of social progress that Team Obama seems to hate with far greater vigor than it hates the Islamic State or Al Qaeda, the federal bosses will already know which county sheriffs and chiefs of police are “reliable.” That is, reliable in the KGB or Stasi meaning of the world. Click your heels, Sheriff, and set up the roadblocks as instructed. It’s a federal order! Do it just like we did it last year.
Again, it’s Operation Jade Conditioning. Ditto for our generals being conditioned to take orders from civilian bureaucrats for military deployments directly into American cities and towns.
That’s my opinion. Or, you can choose to believe that President Obama is actually getting our military primed and ready for simultaneous spec-ops team insertions across the entire Middle East from Egypt to Iran, and Syria to Yemen, the same geographical area covered by Joint Military Exercise Jade Helm 15.
It’s your choice to believe that, if you wish.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3271355/posts
This goes for military, FLEAs, LEOs, "contract role players" and "contract operators."
Mocking someone for their concerns has apparently become some kind of game on FR lately, and quite unbecoming.
I’m classified as a potential terrorist by the security apparatus in this country, why wouldn’t/shouldn’t I be concerned about an operation of this scope?
Before you go off the edge it would be wise to look at the propaganda that has been disseminated by our own Government since Slick Willy was in office.
They have repeatedly pushed the theory under the label of Governmental “Studies” that the biggest threat to America is Middle Aged White Men and their love of Guns and the Constitution...
Meanwhile we allow Mexicans by the millions to flood across the border and ship in Millions of Middle Eastern Savages.
Paranoia is warranted because government is not the servant of the people and at times is an active enemy of the people.
Maybe I’m missing something, but I don’t see any clearly identifiable JH-15 armbands on any of those people.
Military people get promoted and move up to higher positions - and some of them get out or retire.
You continually run exercises to train the people who are now in new positions.
One of the problems of this last 10 plus year war is a lot of the UW command and control has gotten real rusty.
While there will be a large number of ground troops there will be far more in Command & Staff positions working their butts off.
“...or do you just listen to the voices in your head?”
When the voices tell me it’s a good day to stay home & clean the guns, I generally listen. /s
29 years ago Alex Jones was spewing the same exact crap...only then it was black helecopters, train loads of black tanks, and a UN take over so Clinton could delcare himself president for life.
20 years later?.....it’s the same BS different decade.
Jones is STILL harping about a UN takeover!!!...LMAO...
Yeah right...the UN cant even take over Somalia.
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