Posted on 05/06/2015 2:29:50 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
This is the essence of the “fighting words” logic that Chris Cuomo got ripped for defending this morning, no? Geller picked a fight. She, not just the degenerates who attacked the event, is responsible for creating the threat insofar as a breach of the peace was foreseeable. It’s a logical next step from there to saying, “And therefore we should stop her from picking these sorts of fights, as they put innocent people at risk.”
Even in Texas:
Mayor Douglas Athas said he wished Ms. Geller, co-founder and president of the American Freedom Defense Initiative, hadn’t picked Garland as the site for Sunday’s event, the Dallas Morning News reported.
“Certainly in hindsight, we as a community would be better off if she hadn’t,” he told the paper. “Her actions put my police officers, my citizens and others at risk. Her program invited an incendiary reaction. She picked my community, which does not support in any shape, passion or form, her ideology.
“But at the end of the day, we did our jobs,” he added. “We protected her freedoms and her life.”
Her actions were the dangerous ones, huh? You would think this guy, if only in the spirit of solidarity with a fellow citizen who’s now been marked for death by ISIS, would insist on some moral distinction between drawing irreverent cartoons and trying to bomb a community center, but that’s hard to do conceptually if you don’t assign jihadis their own moral agency. To some segment of the population, Islamist nuts are almost part of the weather, not people who consciously undertake to do harm to others. And in a sense, that’s true: If it wasn’t Geller’s cartoon event that got the two Garland savages excited, it would have been something else. Lightning’s going to strike somewhere, whether or not you put your lightning rod out. And you don’t blame lightning for doing what lightning does.
By the way, this makes twice today that I’ve seen someone suggest that Geller’s real crime was organizing an event that required security. Larry Wilmore made the same point last night on his “Daily Show” knockoff, calling it “horrific” that Geller was “intentionally putting innocent, unarmed security guards in danger so you can make some bullshit free speech argument.” Why her free-speech argument is “bullshit” is unclear except that it serves the purpose of a show like his to delegitimize a right-wing villain they might otherwise feel obliged to side with. The security argument is interesting, though, and familiar: It’s basically the same line Martin Dempsey used when he dialed up Terry Jones a few years ago and asked him not to burn the Koran. Is it any worse, I wonder, to put armed security guards in danger? I’m sure it wasn’t Geller’s fault, after all, that the guard in Garland outside the event wasn’t packing, and even if he had been, he was still at risk of being murdered by having to protect the event. Same goes for armed cops, some of whom have been in danger at times after being deployed at anti-police protests in Ferguson and elsewhere over the past year. Presumably it’s okay to put cops at risk of being murdered for a legitimate free-speech matter, but once the demonstration crosses the magical line into “bullshit,” you’re on the hook morally for whatever happens. You trust the left not to abuse a “hate speech” legal regime once that’s been foisted on America, don’t you?
Garland Mayor: Coward
Garland, Texas mayor blames Pam Geller: “She invited an incendiary reaction”
I am sorry Sir but exercising our rights as free American Citizens is not a reason for a terrorist to be given a free pass.
Ms Geller did nothing wrong. Would you have said the artist that made Piss Christ was at fault if some one had harmed him or shot up a Gallery? No you would not so do not provide cover for the islamists.....
Of course she invited an incendiary reaction. But she should be able to. Are we free or are we conquered? We should be able to rally and taunt the jerks on the other side, just as they feel free to do to us. They burn our flags and laugh at us, secure in their united hellholes. We should be able to do the same—it’s only team spirit.
If it’s dangerous to taunt back here, it’s because our leaders have totally abandoned border and immigration enforcement, not because flipping off Muslim nutcases is somehow intrinsically wrong.
Hey mayor...the entire US is proud of Texas. Take a stand, dont waiver, dont whine and go on the offensive!
God Bless Texas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here’s a comma [ , ] for that last sentence.
From Wikipedia: National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie
Purpose of the Case
In 1977 Frank Collin, the leader of National Socialist Party of America, announced the party's intention to march through Skokie, Illinois. In the predominantly Jewish community, one in six residents was a Holocaust survivor[citation needed]. Originally, the NSPA had planned a political rally in Marquette Park in Chicago; however the Chicago authorities blocked these plans by requiring the NSPA to post a public safety insurance bond and by banning political demonstrations in Marquette Park.
On behalf of the NSPA, the ACLU challenged the injunction issued by the Circuit Court of Cook County, Illinois that prohibited marchers at the proposed Skokie rally from wearing Nazi uniforms or displaying swastikas. The ACLU was represented by civil rights attorney Burton Joseph.[1][2] The challengers argued that the injunction violated the First Amendment rights of the marchers to express themselves.
Prior history
Both the Illinois Appellate Court and the Illinois Supreme Court refused to stay the injunction. The case was sent to the Supreme Court of the United States.[3]
On June 14, 1977, the Supreme Court ordered Illinois to hold a hearing on their ruling against the National Socialist Party of America, emphasizing that "if a State seeks to impose a restraint on First Amendment rights, it must provide strict procedural safeguards, including immediate appellate review... Absent such review, the State must instead allow a stay. The order of the Illinois Supreme Court constituted a denial of that right."[3] On remand, the Illinois Appellate Court eliminated the injunction against everything but the swastika. The Illinois Supreme Court heard the case again, focusing on the First Amendment implications of display of the swastika. Skokie attorneys argued that for Holocaust survivors, seeing the swastika was like being physically attacked.
The Illinois Supreme Court ruled that the use of the swastika is a symbolic form of free speech entitled to First Amendment protections and determined that the swastika itself did not constitute "fighting words." Its ruling allowed the National Socialist Party of America to march.[3]
Effect of the decision
In the summer of 1978, in response to the Supreme Court's decision, some Holocaust survivors set up a museum on the Main Street of Skokie to commemorate those who had died in the concentration camps. Ultimately the NSPA failed to carry through its march in Skokie. (Gaining permission in Chicago, they marched there instead).
-PJ
“I wish that as a nation there were more and more of our leaders that had the same kind of courage that this woman [Pam Geller] has,” said Lt. Gen. Boykin (ret.), who is the executive vice president of the Family Research Council (FRC). “[S]he’s a very brave woman and I think that what she did was upholding and standing for our First Amendment rights. And I don’t think she went too far at all.”
The American “Dhimmi” media, cowed by Islamic violence, has accepted total submission to the mandates of the Islamic terrorists.
Pamela Geller, Gert Wilders, and Bosch Fawstin (the winner of the contest) are real heroes that have not accepted to be intimidated by Islamic terrorists. It is denigrating for the American media to see their pundits attacking the freedom of expression of those opposed to the Islamization of U.S.
On January 17,2015 and in the same public school center, there was a “Stand with the Prophet” rally by Muslims, a provocative pro-Shariah law event, by supporters of Al-Qaida and Isis organized by one of the terrorists implicated in the bombing of the garage of the NY World Trade Center in 1993.
I wonder if those who try to blame the organizers of the “First Annual Muhammad Art Exhibit and Contest,” for the Muslim terrorist attack would have justified if a patriotic American had irrupted in the Muslim rally on January and made a massacre of Islamic terrorists. After all, Americans are profoundly offended by their provocation and the abuse of our freedoms by those who made the Muslim rally in support of the savages that decapitate, crucify and burned Christians alive.
The “Dhimmi” media, scared by Islamic violence, auto-censors itself and tries to justify the terrorist attack in Texas because the Mohamed cartoons contest offended the sensibility of Islamic terrorists.
On January 2015, radical Islamists desecrated the holy soil of Texas. Do not mess with Texas!!!
ISIS Comes To Texas – This Is War
Noisy Room ^ | May 4 2015 | Terresa Monroe-Hamilton
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3286035/posts?page=2
Iranian Commander: We Won’t Rest Until US is an Islamic Republic
Don’t allow Obama and the media fool us, radical Islam officially declared war against U.S. on 9/11/2001.
In Switzerland everybody is drafted and they keep their arms in home in case they need to defend their country. It is imperative that all American arm themselves, the jihadists are already in and can attack any time our churches, malls, theaters, slaughtering innocents men women and children as they are massacring Christians in Africa and the Middle East.
Your cowering and spinelessness are duly noted, Mayor. Thank God your police department has a lot more courage and will than you do.
Yes, and we just missed one. It should be on May 5th. We could call it Sinko-duh WTF Day.
We could have robo-calls that say: Welcome to America, for English...don't do anything. For Spanish...go back home to Mexico.
We could drive around in cars with loudspeakers like the Blues Brothers....playing the Star Spangled Banner, God Bless America and theme songs from the military branches. Fireworks, picnics, barb-au-ques...the whole nine yards.
That’s right. We should do more ISIS sting operations. They’re dumber than a bag of rocks.
Ohhhh, so now we get to the core reason why the event was held in Garland....the turnabout must sting for the Mayor!
Garland was chosen because it’s the exact same place that a bunch of Muslims met earlier this year to advocate for sharia law in America.
Apparently, the mayor has no problem with that.
Yeah and we invited 9/11 as well. This blame America and our freedom first crap is par for the course with the left but it seems some so-called conservatives can’t wait to join in the chorus as well. Appeasement will only get you shame and war and we shall have both in abundance because of it. Fools...
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Sam Adams
Well if people would put their country before their all consuming need to be entertained with their $100+ monthly tithe to the cable/dish companies, there would be a whole lot less propagandists convincing the planet that the victims are the aggressors.
But somehow, no matter what leftism they force into the American consciousness on a daily basis, Football, cooking shows and Game of Thrones/Walking Dead are just TOOOOO important.
This may come as a shock to some people but they really are funding America’s demise. Too bad they always have an excuse for it.
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.” Winston Churchill
If you DO NOT understand the One Worlders’ plan to turn America into just another third world hellhole, watch — and share — this 4 minute video! If you’re too disconnected, disinterested or have drunk too much of the insane multiculturalism/tolerance/diversity Kool-Aid to help to halt this process and have children, please leave a letter behind for them apologizing and consider cremation lest they be tempted to dig you up in order to spit in your face for failing to preserve the birthright WE understood to be ours and for which scores of millions died to defend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PzT8vEvYPg&feature=em-subs_digest
So is this Mayor a Democrat or Republican?
Garland invited this event by using a facility owned by the school district for a “Stand with the prophet (mohammed) event” by local Muslims.
The Muslims held a rally as a deliberate counterpoint to Charlie Hebdo vigils, though ostensibly for “Islamophobia”.
So Ms. Gellar stood up for the principles of free speech by having an art contest of images of Mohammed at the same facility.
In short, Garland got to host it because their prior choice begged for an equal time response.
Their only complaint is that Ms. Gellar’s event proved that Muslims are indeed a threat to free speech and Western values.
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