Posted on 05/05/2015 8:50:33 PM PDT by servo1969
More details are beginning to emerge about the incompetent Islamic terrorist attack on a free speech event held by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) in Garland, Texas Sunday. Bearing Arms readers have asked for more details about how the actual shooting went down, and about the Garland police officer who used his duty sidearm to defeat two attackers armed with rifles within 15 seconds.
Please keep in mind that we don’t have all the details about the attack, the individual officer’s response, or the exact steps law enforcement took once the attack began, and that even if we had that information, we would withhold such details which may be useful for any other would-be terrorists attempting future attacks.
That said, we will provide analysis of some key pieces of publicly available information.
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At the point of the attack, the two suspects apparently drove up and opened fire upon an unarmed security guard who was accompanied by a 60-year-old Garland police officer. The unarmed guard was struck the volley of gunfire. The veteran Garland officer then drew his duty-issue Glock pistol and opened fire on the suspects.
The officer killed one terrorist and wounded the other in his initial volley of return fire. Witnesses claim there was a brief pause, and then the officer fire two more shots to kill the still-moving terrorist as he appears to be reaching for a backpack. The entire event lasted 15 seconds, with heavily-armed Garland SWAT converging on the scene immediately afterward.
We’re not going to mention any more about the officer who took out these terrorists, only that to give an idea of his approximate position in relation to the terrorists as he engaged them.
The evidence markers at the bottom of the photo above show us a remarkable story, as they denote the final locations of the shell casings ejected from the officer’s Glock duty pistol. While every pistol is different from another in its ejection pattern, and the movement of the officer and the cant of his gun precludes us from knowing exactly where he was, there, is a distinct trial of shells showing that the officer was moving forward from the bottom left of the photo above towards the terrorists at the rear of the vehicle. He appears to have opened fire from 20 yards away, and fired at least a dozen shots by the time he reached an area near the traffic cones, roughly 7-10 yards from where the terrorists died.
Second photo taken from the opposite angle (below) seems to confirm this determined officer’s advance on the terrorists while firing.
Note: the damage to the vehicle driven by the terrorists was from controlled demolitions from EOD units ensuring that the car was not a VBIED (vehicle-borne improvised explosive device).
There seems to be a great deal of skepticism regarding whether or not the suspects were wearing body armor and whether they were armed with “automatic weapons” or “assault rifles” or something else entirely. Other photos from the crime scene suggest answers to those questions as well.
In the image above, we have drawn an orange rectangle around what appears to be blood-drenched halves of a soft body armor carrier worn by one of the terrorists. Most people don’t seem to grasp that there are multiple grades of soft body armor, that these materials degrade over time, and that the armor panels themselves do not often cover the entire torso, leaving gaps under the arms, below the ribs, and at the neck.
We simply don’t know if the officer’s bullets compromised the armor or went around the armor panels, but it is quite clear that there was soft body armor worn by at least one of the terrorists, and that it did not prevent him from being quickly taken out of of the fight.
Did the terrorists have “automatic weapons” as some mainstream media outlets initially claimed?
The media claim of “automatic weapons” or “machine guns” is always to be discounted until positively affirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt by firearms experts (not law enforcement public information officers), simply based on how difficult it is to obtain automatic weapons in the United States.
What we do have is two separate images that appear to show long guns recovered at the scene. We’ve taken part of the image above and flipped it vertically below in an effort to better determine what we’re looking at.
It isn’t anything we immediately recognize, though we can say for certain that it doesn’t appear to be any centerfire variant or an AR-15 or AKM. While the photo we have to work with is frankly horrible, our best guess is that The firearm we’re looking at is a most likely Kel-Tec SUB-2000, a popular and inexpensive pistol caliber carbine shown below.
Partially obscured behind evidence marker 34 is what appears to be a firearm with an AR-15-type front sight post, but the quality of the image and amount of the gun covered by the evidence marker make it impossible to tell what we’re really looking at.
Is this a legitimate centerfire AR-15? Is this a rimfire copy? Is this an airgun, designed to look enough like an AR-15 to win a jihadi his martyrdom?
Frankly, I’m tempted to think that we’re looking at a “faux-15″ martyrdom special or a .22 clone, considering we’ve not be able to track down credible reports of the distinctively different reports of a centerfire rifle fire, and the confirmed Glock pistol-fire from the Garland officer.
We’re not ruling out the possibility that this was a centerfire AR-15 recovered at the scene, we’re simply noting that there wasn’t much evidence suggesting it was able to be brought into play by the terrorists.
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No matter how you break down the details, this was an incredible display of bravery and marksmanship by this 30+ year veteran of the Garland Police Department, who not only resisted the natural urge to create distance between yourself and rifle-armed assailants, but who appears to have done precisely the opposite, and who advanced while firing accurately, bringing the attack to a swift conclusion without a single additional casualty once he brought his weapon to bear.
Determined people with good training and a decent handgun can indeed defeat the most zealous fanatic.
Get out there and train folks. Maybe one day it will be your turn to be the one standing on the line defending liberty from savagery.
Update: We’d like to thank Kaitian for finding a higher resolution image of the SUB-2000 used in the attack, which we’ve swapped out in the story above.
@bob_owens Don’t know if you know but there’s a higher resolution picture of the gun used. https://t.co/39OmgBAclL
— Kaitian (@Kaitian1) May 5, 2015
I saw some of those posts and almost jumped in on him early, but was sidetracked. Not surprised.
God help us"
Which worries me, after seeing Fox this morning. They said Isis has a presence in Virginia, and I would bet every dollar I have it's centered in the Muslims of America paramilitary compound, which is eleven miles from me.
On the weekend I sometimes run down to Appomattox for some quick shopping, as it's closer than Lynchburg...when I do, the place is overrun with Muslims, and they all look at you as though they could kill you.
Every time I go down there, I wonder if it will be the day they choose to blow up the Walmart or the Kroger.
these people quickly forget that little girls in our very gun free zone schools are taught a feminism that violates shariah and makes men and Mohamed pretty much subservient. So WOULD IT BE PROVOCATION there too?
People, give me a break. The hadjis only retaliated there because they were communist advised that it was spunable as PC. So now again, PC gets us killed and people are fine with this unholy authority too? Carrying the waters of islam?
this is pathetic. No one provoked anything but simply spoke up . I find it funny that capitalists never bomb people when offended by communists. fools, is that how it should work? Obviously they found the perfect flaw to exploit and convert our schools and kick out women out of our schools.
I'm glad that one is gone, but I do admit I was looking forward to your game. Dude was intellectually outgunned.
And, of course, the media called it an “assault rifle”.
Thats a 9mm pistol with a long barrel and a butstock.
A VERY detailed tactical analysis of the abortive terror atack on Pam Gellar in Texas. Please also note the comments from several FReepers down-thread...
The Watchman Ping List - FReepmail Old Sarge for details!
Thank you, jazusamo. I am all right. The smartest thing I ever
did was to refuse the nasty, hair-destroying drugs (after four
sessions of torture) and also any radiation treatment prescribed
by my oncologist. After six weeks, my hair is now 1/8” long.
Sigh...
I’m still on chemo, but is is only one drug now, a cancer-gene
suppressor that has far fewer side-effects than the nasty drugs
and most certainly radiation therapy, which itself causes cancer.
BTTT
I don’t think they zot them any longer. Norm and Darkshear[sp?] have exposed more than a few and they are still here.
” have I overestimated the intellect on this site?”
Uh, no....you overestimated YOUR OWN intellect.
So will Boehner.
Wishing you the best, my FRiend and keeping you in our thoughts and prayers.
Judging by the comments from the callers to Michael Savage, he/she will have plenty of company. They were all males, I would not refer to them as men.
” spectacularly Blazing Butt in the Viking Kitties’ Toaster Oven! “
Colorful , as usual. Stay well. Praying for your full recovery.
Ahhh, the old “Ten million Frenchmen can’t be wrong”, application. all you got to do is read their book. If you are too stupid to understand it your blood is on your own head.
Perhaps you should try another stance in your (now futile) search for "kumbaya" with the Islamists:
It appears that your selected position has resulted in a lack of oxygen to your brain, resulting in your erroneous assumption that your intellect is vastly higher than FR members.
Why don't you just admit to yourself that you are scared of the Islamists, and at least you will be being honest. They MIGHT not chop off your head if you can convince them that you "understand" their position and you "sympathize" with their "religious" beliefs.
Of course, you really need to be prepared to sacrifice any women you know to these raping, pillaging savages. But hey, at least YOU will be saved, eh?
To assist you in your "make friends with the Islamists'" endeavors, here is a recommended study course:
And, in closing, FR awards you a lifetime membership card from the Blazing Butts club for your amazingly pitiful posts that resulted in your ZOT from the Premier Conservative Web Site on the Internet.
Try not to return to FR during one of your brief pauses between visiting those Porn sites, because your new screen name "WillyHairyPalm" really won't be appropriate. Hopefully your intellectual level is at least marginally sufficient for you to understand this guidance.
I guess Rebuilding the World Trade Center is a problem as well. How dare we rebuild something the Jihadist’s worked so hard to destroy?
It’s like were giving them a 1776 Foot Tall Middle Finger.
Meanwhile, I’m planning an attack because I was reminded about the Jesus in Urine Exhibit. /s
Fabulous post Servo......thanks for posting.
William Tripp from huffpuff has spoken..
That line caught my attention, as well...fifty or sixty years ago; you might have made a credible argument for that statement. The tipping point toward the pit of hell came when the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob was thrown out of the classroom. Since there are so few of a like mind here in Red England, I find peace in the garden this time of year. (Salsa addiction; the hotter, the better...what can I say?)
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