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Obama eyes big change to rules on overtime pay
CBS News ^ | May 5, 2015 | ByARDEN FARHI

Posted on 05/05/2015 1:49:30 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Under current law, employers are required to pay time-and-a-half wages to employees working more than 40 hours a week only if they earn less than $23,660 annually. The Obama administration is intent on increasing - and likely more than doubling - that salary threshold, according to people briefed on the administration's plans.

That change is likely to have significant impact on workers in retail and the food services industry, like a restaurant manger who earns $30,000 a year but works 60 hours a week.

"We need a national wage floor that that rises each year, so that its purchasing power doesn't erode with time," Labor Secretary Tom Perez wrote in a blog post.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economics101; marxism; obamanomics; socialism
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To: saleman

salaried usually don’t OT pay..


21 posted on 05/05/2015 2:10:31 PM PDT by Paul46360 (..)
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To: saleman

Not really. I collected money from two loan companies who tried that trick. DoL is very narrow on who is really exempt.


22 posted on 05/05/2015 2:10:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: glorgau
Productivity increases will theoretically cover the cost...

How do you mandate a productivity increase?

"Joe, we are giving you a ten percent raise and we demand that you increase your productivity by twenty percent!" (Joe happens to be a retail clerk; so that should prove interesting)

Besides; if the employees also become unionized, the unions will force productivity lower. They always do. It's their thing, ya know?

23 posted on 05/05/2015 2:14:29 PM PDT by ChicagahAl (Today's Democrats are much more Fascist than Communist; but Sen Joe McCarthy was still right.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The one sheet system works if you buy $25.00 rolls of tissue. Which most here can’t afford. One sheet is as thick as 6 sheets of the $1.00 roll of sheety paper. It is the same as using 6 sheets but it makes the celeb (lib) feel better. And we all know it is all about feeling better while accomplishing nothing.


24 posted on 05/05/2015 2:14:38 PM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Federal government has no business regulating overtime pay, or any pay whatsoever. There is NOTHING in the Constitution about it. Wickard v. Filburn started all this crap, using the Interstate Commerce clause as a bludgeon to destroy businesses.


25 posted on 05/05/2015 2:19:05 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
That change is likely to have significant impact on workers in retail and the food services industry, like a restaurant manger who earns $30,000 a year but works 60 hours a week.

I managed food in California and as a manager I was salaried, so exempt provided rules were followed. I don't know what states they are talking about because back in 76' and all the way up to 98' I was paying overtime to any hourly employee that worked over 8 a day or 40 a week, and I never heard of a threshold rule. I was offered a job at Olive Garden when the first started to expand in California, for about half my McD salary but with the potential for a bonus, I declined.

26 posted on 05/05/2015 2:23:43 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Business is none of government business. The U.S. Gov. has already been through the nose under the edge, and is now fully involved inside the tent spewing their stink in everything. Break out the room deodorizer, and spray until the can is empty, and open another.


27 posted on 05/05/2015 2:25:13 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

More anti-business horse sh*t from the Marxist-in-Chief.

He’ll drive the United States to its knees before he’s done.


28 posted on 05/05/2015 2:27:37 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: rdcbn

OR, we can stop giving student loans for idiotic majors and only for those that have inherent monetary value, like computers, accounting, finance, nursing, etc.


29 posted on 05/05/2015 2:33:08 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
Thank you for referencing that article Oldeconomybuyer. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

This is another 17th Amendment (17A)-related issue. More on 17A shortly.

"Obama eyes big change to rules on overtime pay"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Simply put, and as mentioned in related threads, the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate intrastate overtime pay. In fact, note that regardless what FDR’s activist justices wanted everybody to think about Congress’s Commerce Clause powers when they wrongly decided Wickard v. Filburn in Congress’s favor in 1942, FDR’s thug justices ignored that the Supreme Court had previously clarified that the states have never constitutionally delegated to the feds the specific power to regulate intrastate commerce.

”State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphases added].” —Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

And the reason that the corrupt feds are now wrongly regulating overtime pay is the following imo.

The Founding States had not only established the federal Senate, but had given the power to vote for federal senators uniquely to state lawmakers. The idea was that senators would protect their states in Congress by killing bills that steal 10th Amendment-protected state powers, such as the power to regulate intrastate overtime pay.

But as a consequence of 17A, low-information citizens go home after voting for their favorite federal senators and watch football, clueless that their corrupt senators are working in cahoots with the corrupt House to pass vote-winning bills, such as bills to regulate intrastate overtime pay, such bills based on powers which the states have never delegated to the feds as previously mentioned.

And what’s worse than the Senate hurting their states by passing unconstitutional bills which steal state sovereignty is this. The Senate then confirms activist justices who declare the unconstitutional laws that the Senate has passed as constitutional.

What a racket!

The 17th Amendment needs to disappear, and a bunch of corrupt senators along with it.

30 posted on 05/05/2015 2:35:04 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I have a bucket full of BS here I will give to anybody who can honestly claim they are shocked by this.


31 posted on 05/05/2015 2:39:44 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
$23,600 is peanuts. The exemption limit needs to be raised.

You could be right, I certainly think QSR managers get abused by the franchisee. However, many are on profit sharing and some franchisers require the manager be a 5% owner and/or profit sharing. The unintended consequence government intervention would be an end to ownership and profit sharing.

32 posted on 05/05/2015 2:51:39 PM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

not sure it should be raised, but damn well should be defined that all hourly work performed is not exempt and that employers cannot just have their employees sit around more then 40 hours a week when not doing anything.
Work a specific schedule of hours or at the direction and timing of someone else? That should be not exempt period.

My wife was stuck in a job for a while where she worked 3-5 shifts a week doing hourly employ work... then was expected to work here manager work after....


33 posted on 05/05/2015 3:02:46 PM PDT by orionrising
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To: saleman

Yeah, that’s the craps. That’s why retail is tough too. I know the federal laws fairly well because I had an employee or 2 trying to game the system on labor laws and accusing me and the company of taking advantage of him.
There is a list of people who are exempt and yes, managers are exempt. Best wishes.


34 posted on 05/06/2015 11:18:15 AM PDT by vpintheak (Call the left what they are - regressive control-freaks)
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To: vpintheak

Anymore it’s like everyone is gaming some system or another....from employees to ceo’s and all in between...in Gov. and Industry and throughout this country...and if they aren’t working they’re gaming the welfare system.

Every man for himself regardless of the ways and means rings loudly today!


35 posted on 05/06/2015 11:32:36 AM PDT by caww
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To: I want the USA back

Your comment reminds me of a personal situation years ago. I was out of university a few years when I went to work for a national/international company as a specialist project engineer. I had been doing creditable work for a while when I was called in by the chief of technical operations for a performance review. I was asked what my goal was as to my job. I responded I wanted to have my performance result in gain for the company to be double the amount that I was being paid. The reviewing person was really taken back by my remark. In this day and age I believe many if not most employees believe they should be paid for just being ‘on the job’.


36 posted on 05/06/2015 11:56:29 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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