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Police charges in Freddie Gray case are incompetent at best
Baltimore Sun ^ | May 5, 2015 | Page Croyder

Posted on 05/05/2015 11:55:30 AM PDT by don-o

Any prosecutor interested in the truth and in justice would have used all the tools at her disposal to find them. Ms. Mosby ignored them. She has one of the most experienced homicide prosecutors in the state of Maryland as chief of her homicide unit, but did not ask him to investigate. She had the police report all of one day before filing charges, her mind already made up. And she failed to make use of the grand jury to gather, probe and test the evidence before a group of average citizens.

In fact, Ms. Mosby was so hasty it appears she locked up two completely innocent officers. She charged Freddie Gray’s arresting officers with “false imprisonment” because she said the knife that Gray had on him was legal. In fact, as The Sun reported, the Police Task Force found it to be illegal after all. It was Ms. Mosby who had no probable cause to lock the arresting officers up, an injustice she could have easily avoided by taking her time.

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In the long run, Ms. Mosby may be undermining the cause of justice rather than promoting it. She has created an expectation of guilt and conviction. If that does not happen, many will blame the system as unfair or unjust, when it may have been Ms. Mosby's own lack of competence and/or arrogance in bringing charges so quickly.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baltimore; mosby; mosbyincompetent; mosbypresser
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To: MeganC

Police are allowed to arrest someone who runs from them, especially since Gray was observed in a hand to hand transaction prior to fleeing. This was disclosed by another officer with inside information.

I can understand why the officers did not believe Gray’s claims of physical distress, because according to other officers that was his standard M.O. when being arrested. A case of crying Wolf too many times.

Unfortunately for Gray, his attempt to avoid a possession charge may be what ended his life. Gray was not known to be a heroin user, but herion was in his urine test. Heroin used in excess causes slow, difficult breathing, convulsions, heart failure, and coma, all symptoms that Gray exhibited. Convulsions could explain his thrashing around in the back of the van. He definitely had cardiac arrest and was in a coma by the time they reached their destination.

We need to wait for all of the forensic evidence to come out, because it is obvious that this prosecutor is biased and completely unreliable in her demonstrated lack of knowledge of the law.


41 posted on 05/05/2015 12:42:38 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

Good post...I agree.

I often wonder now what his mother is going to do for her Heroin addiction...which apparently Freddie kept her in supply of. Appears she’s a lifetime hard core Heroin addict. Photos throughout this ordeal show her pretty much out of it but I’m sure they’re sedating her one way or another.


42 posted on 05/05/2015 12:47:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

and as he was well known to the local community police, who knew he was on parole....when the facts of FG’s police record come out I think that CNN will suddenly find a new topic....


43 posted on 05/05/2015 12:48:17 PM PDT by B212
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To: don-o

She will make an excellent Dem candidate for president in 4 years.


44 posted on 05/05/2015 12:48:37 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (God is very intollerant, why shouldn't I be?)
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To: cumbo78

Grand Juries are not mandatory. If you can find a reference otherwise, please educate us.

The State Attorney thinks there is obvious probable cause and no need for a grand jury. I agree. Charge them and charge them quickly because 1. The deserve to be charged. Then 2. It will defuse the situation. Which is legitimate so long as #1 is there.


45 posted on 05/05/2015 12:49:52 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Police are just armed bureaucrats.)
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To: jsanders2001

you peasants out there...listen up, I am women hear me yell...


46 posted on 05/05/2015 12:50:50 PM PDT by B212
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To: caww

I didn’t know about the mom’s heroin addiction. Guess she’ll be able to buy all she wants with the settlement, at least until she O.D.’s


47 posted on 05/05/2015 12:51:36 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: B212

There’s so much the officers know that we don’t really. For me it’s pretty clear just in the fact he ran. He certainly knew the process but ran instead....and that was his downfall from the get go. Everything else that followed are the consequences of that action....and in fact all the other actions Fred has been doing throughout his life.


48 posted on 05/05/2015 12:53:20 PM PDT by caww
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To: MeganC

It is a police officers obligation to find out why someone runs from them. There is a reason he ran; had he just committed a crime; was he hiding drugs; did he have outstanding warrants? If he did nothing, he would have been questioned and let go.

The knife issue came after they captured him. If the knife was not legal (we don’t have the facts yet)that is probable cause. No reason to condemn the officers at this point.


49 posted on 05/05/2015 1:18:45 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There is no standard. If one is on parole, they are subject to a search at anytime.


50 posted on 05/05/2015 1:21:23 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: conservativejoy

Your arguments would stand up except for the teensy little detail of Gray having died in police custody.


51 posted on 05/05/2015 1:21:49 PM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: Usagi_yo

...and your belief the police officers are guilty is, of course, based on your long study of all the evidence. /S


52 posted on 05/05/2015 1:22:34 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: Pirate Ragnar

I thought so. One of the conditions of parole is that you give up some of your rights.


53 posted on 05/05/2015 1:25:03 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: B212

I am (a Black)woman, hear me yell....


54 posted on 05/05/2015 1:25:26 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Libs put feelings first and thought second.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Lil Freddie was a convicted felon...not supposed to have any kind of knife or weapon on him. These charges will be tossed.


55 posted on 05/05/2015 1:28:30 PM PDT by basalt
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To: MeganC

Well, it remains to be seen what caused the injury that resulted in Gray’s death. There is nothing at this point that supports that any one of these officers did anything to cause intentional harm to Gray. No doubt, Gray’s mother will be insured of plenty of money to support her heroin habit from the settlement, but I think they’re going to have a harm time getting convictions on these charges.


56 posted on 05/05/2015 1:34:19 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: marktwain

“Police only have to believe the knife was illegal. The job of determining if it was legal or not rests with a jury.”

“This is an important point that few appreciate.”

If he was on probation or parole, he was probably violating by being in possession of a weapon, the knife.


57 posted on 05/05/2015 1:48:59 PM PDT by mouske
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To: Pirate Ragnar

Ipso Facto, res ipsa loquitur.

There is sufficient evidence of sufficient quality to warrant charges and prosecution.

You seem to be confusing guilt with probable cause. Let me illustrate:

Probable cause => trial => guilt or innocence or mistrial.

And that’s a helluva lot more than they gave Freddie Gray who’s death they caused through malfeasance, nonfeasance and misfeasance to varying degrees.


58 posted on 05/05/2015 1:56:57 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Police are just armed bureaucrats.)
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To: marktwain

““Police only have to believe the knife was illegal. The job of determining if it was legal or not rests with a jury.”

This is an important point that few appreciate.”

And one that most people get wrong. The judge determines the law (aside from Jury nullification which I support), the Jury decides the facts.


59 posted on 05/05/2015 2:00:19 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Police are just armed bureaucrats.)
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To: Pirate Ragnar

Law enforcement or Crime Prevention. Which one do you prefer?


60 posted on 05/05/2015 2:01:56 PM PDT by Usagi_yo (Police are just armed bureaucrats.)
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