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Ted Cruz ‘reached out to the Pentagon’ about martial law conspiracy theory
MSNBC ^ | May 2, 2015 | Emma Margolin

Posted on 05/02/2015 6:04:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Depending on whom you ask, “Jade Helm 15” is either a domestic military training exercise or a covert operation for the federal government to take over the state of Texas – and 2016 presidential candidate Ted Cruz just became the latest Republican to fan the flames of the latter theory.

Speaking at the South Carolina Republican Party’s annual convention Saturday, the Texas senator told Bloomberg’s David Weigel that his office had contacted the Pentagon about the exercise, which officially consists of a series of training drills throughout the Southwest for about 1,200 special operations personnel, including Green Berets and Navy SEALs. Conspiracy theorists operating on the fringes of the conservative blogosphere, however, have other ideas about what the exercise, known as Jade Helm 15, is intended to do – such as implement martial law, seize Americans’ guns, and imprison political dissidents.

Rather than squash those theories outright, Cruz apparently decided it was better to be safe than sorry.

“My office has reached out to the Pentagon to inquire about this exercise,” he said. “We are assured it is a military training exercise. I have no reason to doubt those assurances, but I understand the reason for concern and uncertainty, because when the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration, the natural consequence is that many citizens don’t trust what it is saying.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; jadehelm; martiallaw; obama; tedcruz; texas
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To: Vermont Lt
And I think he’s a nut too.

A Bush supporter, eh?

381 posted on 05/03/2015 3:40:20 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s on msnbc it’s a lie.


382 posted on 05/03/2015 3:44:02 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MSNBC ridicules Ted Cruz, but they will never say one word about this whackjob,
who incidentally is the democrats' strategic deep thinker and Hillary's blunt roller.

Obama aide John Podesta says ‘biggest failure’ was not securing the disclosure of UFO files

I will break it to you as gently as I can, Mr. Podesta.

 - Aliens have never visited Earth.

 - Aliens are never going to visit Earth.

383 posted on 05/03/2015 3:44:56 AM PDT by greedo
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To: Vermont Lt

Marshall law!!!111!!!11!!!


384 posted on 05/03/2015 3:51:41 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Darksheare
Yeah, there was a Sherrif who shot a soldier because he thought he was under attack, and the soldiers in the vehicle thought he was part of the exercise.

Army Regrets 'Tragic' Shooting in North Carolina

The problem with this exercise and others like it is that it demonstrates a growing erosion of Posse Comitatus within the military. Coupled with all the "nationalize this and nationalize that" and "civilian army" talk from the Obama regime, then yeah, people absolutely do have a reason to be concerned about the military's behavior and actions inside the country.

385 posted on 05/03/2015 3:55:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not the military that concerns me with exercises being conducted outside the bounds of its own instalations. After all, there have been plenty of these done in the past, both here and overseas (Loisiana Maneuvers, Reforger, etc...). It’s the militarized FLEAs, state and local who “partner” with the military for a piece of the pie and the action that concern me, and the conditioning of the American public that makes the whole process “normal” in the midst of and under the thumb of the Obama regime.


386 posted on 05/03/2015 3:56:22 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: matt1234
That is the first time I have ever seen a Freeper refer to Alinsky as "Saul."

Does make one suspicious doesn't it?

387 posted on 05/03/2015 3:57:46 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

*sigh*

Looks like MSNBC succeeded in their task.

Printed a story that starts everyone on our side fighting with each other again.


388 posted on 05/03/2015 4:03:18 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("When you have to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk." --Tuco)
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To: OneWingedShark
Seven Days in May


389 posted on 05/03/2015 4:06:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: TADSLOS
It’s the militarized FLEAs, state and local who “partner” with the military for a piece of the pie and the action that concern me, and the conditioning of the American public that makes the whole process “normal” in the midst of and under the thumb of the Obama regime.

Yep, the militarization of police departments play into this thing too.

Here's something scary for you. I have a good friend who's currently a company-grade officer in the Army (who's leaving at the end of the year out of disgust after 10+ years of service and a tour in Iraq). He told me last week that he actually had to explain to another officer, a West Pointer (!), what Posse Comitatus was.

True.

390 posted on 05/03/2015 4:11:51 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wish I had a senator Ted Cruz, instead of two democrat senators that crap all over people like me.

One democrat senator has been indicted.
The other democrat senator went to the senate, and made a speech.
In it, he spoke about how he drove from NJ to Hawaii after getting his drivers license.

I'd place odds that some of the idiots who just voted for him to be re-elected are posting here..
391 posted on 05/03/2015 4:17:00 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Timber Rattler

Yes.
But there are idiots who absolutely cannot understand the point.


392 posted on 05/03/2015 4:23:04 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Vermont Lt
He just lost my vote.

He never had your vote. Go vote for Jeb or Hillary. If you think the government is not out of control, then your a nut. If you think it's nuts for a Senator to ask a question about something for which a lot of his constituents are concerned, then you're an idiot. And if you think that spewing some RINO talking points here makes you look come across as reasonable and Conservative then you are both nuts and an idiot: a nudiot.

393 posted on 05/03/2015 4:27:39 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Timber Rattler
That doesn't surprise me.

1. Attending a military academy doesn't mean you are gifted with boundless knowledge and intellect or that you stayed awake in every class.

2. Unless a member of the military is participating in a mission that affects the civil population (civil unrest/ natural disaster/border defense, etc...) they don't get briefed on Posse Comitatus as a constraint to their mission.

It could be that the officer in question just never had those experiences and the first time he heard the term was from your friend.

394 posted on 05/03/2015 4:30:34 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: TADSLOS
Yeah, but one would think that Posse Comitatus would be included as part of the curriculum of the service academies, OCS, and ROTC, but it obviously is not, which is frightening.

Also, with all the recent "purges" of old school senior military officers in all branches, a steady flow of career-climbing, PC-infused successors have risen up to impose the Left's idea of military service onto the ranks. It's one of the reasons my buddy is hang it up at the end of the year---he can no longer stand the latest incessant PC indoctrination that is changing the mission from warfighting to liberal social engineering. He's just had enough of it.

395 posted on 05/03/2015 4:53:09 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
Yeah, but one would think that Posse Comitatus would be included as part of the curriculum of the service academies, OCS, and ROTC, but it obviously is not, which is frightening.

It was. I don't know if it still is. As I recall, every soldier in the Army received a legal brief that covers topics like UCMJ, Posse Comitatus, etc.., at least once a year, at a minimum. That doesn't mean everyone understood it or paid attention.

Back in the day, before we had the luxury of the interwebs, you had to search out a specific regulation or a field manual to learn about things like Posse Comitatus on your own. There really is no excuse not to understand that constraint today, given the technology to retrieve the information with a mouse click.

396 posted on 05/03/2015 5:05:51 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: Vermont Lt

Interesting.....

he took both sides of an issue.

Now to maintain tour Conservative purity and self esteem you won’r vote and Hillary will get elected


397 posted on 05/03/2015 5:10:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Vermont Lt

You do remember Obama’s speech about creating “a civilian military force that is just as powerful just as well equipped as our military.” Maybe the people who are concerned are thinking of the President’s own words. I trust our military, but I don’t trust the Commander in Chief.

Besides, it is a Senators job to check out and respond to concerns of the citizens he represents. There was nothing about what Ted Cruz did or said that was not a perfectly reasonable response to the inquiries made to him.


398 posted on 05/03/2015 5:48:43 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Pajamajan

I’m praying with you and I like the directness of your prayers. I pray every day for God to give Ted Cruz favor in the sight of men. I do believe he is called for this time and I pray that our country does not foolishly reject him.


399 posted on 05/03/2015 6:09:56 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“We are assured it is a military training exercise. I have no reason to doubt those assurances, but I understand the reason for concern and uncertainty, because when the federal government has not demonstrated itself to be trustworthy in this administration, the natural consequence is that many citizens don’t trust what it is saying.”

Yes, this man is obviously insane. < /eye roll>

At least MSNBS was courteous enough to provide a direct quote somewhere in the article.

400 posted on 05/03/2015 6:14:19 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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