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‘We Will Not Obey’: Christian Leaders Threaten Civil Disobedience if Gay Marriage Legalized
Townhall ^ | 04/29/2015 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 04/29/2015 10:55:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 04/29/2015 11:05:41 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 19kidsandcounting; 2016election; arkansas; churches; civildisobedience; duggarfamily; election2016; familyresearchcounc; frc; gaymarriage; gaystapo; homofascism; homosexualagenda; indiana; joshduggar; liberalagenda; mikehuckabee; mikepence; popefrancis; rfra; romancatholicism; tlc; ussc
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To: rarestia
What bugs me personally is how we’re considered “religious fanatics” for standing up for what is a religious institution.

It is actually a religious institution that has been protected by civil law. The pro-gay whack jobs know that if they go after the civil protections then the religious dimension will be injured to their benefit.

61 posted on 04/29/2015 12:03:22 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: Biggirl
Josh Duggar: Christians who aren’t allowed to discriminate against gays are victims of discrimination
62 posted on 04/29/2015 12:04:59 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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To: SeekAndFind

As I said I n the last article on this issue- it’s all well and good but if the SC doesn’t find in favor of gay marriage, then the gay agenda will get to scream bloody hell about the SC being bullied by extremist right wing bigots who bullied the court to vote against their conscience

Which would be fine IF that’s all that would happen- I’d say ‘let them scream and whine- ‘ but my fear is that this would give the gaystapo further leverage to claim discrimination when the case if brought back before the courts-

For this civil disobedience to work, the effort has to be massive- them oral majority has to get involved, because if they don’t, courts will simply target the few who are doing the civil disobedience, and make them out to be criminals- but if the effort is massive, nationwide, then it stands a much better chance- BUT it the civil disobedience MUST be coupled with the TRUTH and that is that gay marriage is a DEVIANT lifestyle choice that is not protected by the constitution, nor are any other DEVIANT lifestyle choices, and that any judges that ruled otherwise were forsaking their obligation to judge in an objective manner and therefore the new law is illegitimate, hence the need for civil disobedience- But again, the effort MUST be massive and nationwide in order to be effective

States banded together once before and did this civil disobedience things, and the effort was massive enough that the federal government had to back down- but had only a couple of states done so- the government would have bullied them into submission- it was the ‘strength in numbers’ effort that prevailed


63 posted on 04/29/2015 12:05:06 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I agree, it’s old and tired. I wish he would find another forum for his
Defeatism.


64 posted on 04/29/2015 12:05:16 PM PDT by crosdaddy
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To: sickoflibs; HiTech RedNeck; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; ...

” RE:”Let’s not split hairs or indulge in self righteous gotchas over King. Let’s honor what he was most known for and then keep going.””

No, lets NOT, Hitech. King was a reprobate at best.


65 posted on 04/29/2015 12:07:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I agree.

Read again And read again:
Are we not judged by our INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS ?
Shouldn't judgement begin with US ?

Our ACTIONS matter as we go through this fiery trial, and every action we take, every idle word we speak, we WILL answer for.

And so it has been written, and so IT SHALL BE DONE.

Can you remember reading about "a thorn in their side"?


Someone once said: They may be more to it than that.
Doing is important.
I believe the "fiery trial" has already started.
We haven't been very diligent " ... to keep and to do all that is written in the book of the law of Moses ... "
and there are consequences for our actions and in-actions.
We are living in the time of those consequences.
66 posted on 04/29/2015 12:07:51 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve always thought the left has a wildcard and a few jokers for their Islamic “Allies” when they’ve finished mopping us up. The ultimate goal (if you believe in the supernatural war between God and the devil) is satan worship for lefties. “Allah” is a liability for them.


67 posted on 04/29/2015 12:08:03 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: no-to-illegals
I stopped watching "Glee" when the two gay guys began smooching on the bed they shared.

That was only soft gay porn on one show designed to get us to let our guard down.

Imagine when they have carte blanche. It won't be simply "suggestive."

68 posted on 04/29/2015 12:08:04 PM PDT by Slyfox (If I'm ever accused of being a Christian, I'd like there to be enough evidence to convict me)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Tell you what, you priase the lord, but pass me all your ammunition, since you’re not using it...


69 posted on 04/29/2015 12:08:26 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: crosdaddy

Agreed, in spades.


70 posted on 04/29/2015 12:08:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: polymuser

Osteen and Warren types will fold and accept it. The rest will go to jail, war, or the grave fighting this.


71 posted on 04/29/2015 12:11:54 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: SeekAndFind
Drawing a firm line is fine -- a smart and very necessary idea whose time has come. But threatening the Supreme Court? Not so bright.

However, I agree with this stance. I do not serve the government. The government serves me. If it no longer serves me, then it is no longer my government, and I am no longer bound by its laws.

72 posted on 04/29/2015 12:13:14 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Osteen and Warren types will fold and accept it.

Their "Religion" is selling books, gays buy books, too.

73 posted on 04/29/2015 12:13:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Yosemitest

Thanks much. I saved your post for future reference.


74 posted on 04/29/2015 12:14:00 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: eekitsagreek

If our side is supposedly smarter, then why are we losing the culture war?


Smarter than the thugs throwing rocks and starting fires.


75 posted on 04/29/2015 12:22:58 PM PDT by boycott
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To: SeekAndFind

Last October, when SCOTUS took this up, I made the following assertion:

“The next battle will be a requirement for clergy to conduct these perverted unions. Since clergy are authorized to sign official state records (marriage licenses), that leaves a great big gaping hole that some libtard simply needs to jump through to assert that a church marriage is not merely a religious ceremony, but is an extension of a State Government function...and, as such, public accommodation laws must apply. Just a matter of time... “

Apparently, “some libtard” is getting ready to jump through that hoop.


76 posted on 04/29/2015 12:35:10 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
RE :”Tony Perkins of FRC was on CBS Face the Nation Sunday debating that old lib fossil Scheifer and did a pretty good job, pointed out that only a few states actually passed gay marriage, most were forced to execute it by judges.”
.......
You NEVER hear this mentioned by the MSM. Surprised even FNC aired this.”

You skimmed over this I can see, it says CBS.

77 posted on 04/29/2015 12:47:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: stephenjohnbanker
In the very back of your Bible in the Concordance, WRITE IN the references to those chapters and verses, so you can use them again,
and TEACH those who would try to SELL "DO NOTHING" to the masses.
78 posted on 04/29/2015 12:48:21 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; SeekAndFind; Gilbo_3; Impy; NFHale; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy
RE :”Yet we stand for this. How long will we stand for this ? Until every Christian-owned business and every church is litigated into bankruptcy ?’

Not sure what you mean there. I don't think rioting and looting in our own neighborhoods would help.

You see where gofundme cutoff a fund to pay Christian owned business's fines based on orders from the gaystopo?

79 posted on 04/29/2015 12:51:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: sickoflibs

You caught me : )

(proudly skimming since 2005)


80 posted on 04/29/2015 12:52:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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