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1 posted on 04/27/2015 7:35:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

He is correct.


2 posted on 04/27/2015 7:37:47 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yup, and it’s a mistake to keep illegals in “the shadows” and not let them come out thereof to become “new taxpayers”.


3 posted on 04/27/2015 7:38:17 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SeekAndFind

Next: Did we really have to fight Hitler?


4 posted on 04/27/2015 7:38:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: SeekAndFind
had this debate with another freeper, about 30 back and forths. I said no it was not worth it. He made good case and I am a lousy debater.
I will say, even if it was right to go in, it was wrong to go in with less than half a million men and seal everything tight. Our soldiers did not deserve to get blown up by IEDs every day.
Also, when you invade under the “liberation” theme it's hard to instill order because you can't be as harsh as you need to be.
but I could be wrong and will probably get toasted in 3....2....1
5 posted on 04/27/2015 7:40:01 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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No, it was a huge mistake for Obama to take the troops out too soon. Even Leon Panetta (lifelong Dem Congressman & Obama’s DOD Sec) was against him doing it.


7 posted on 04/27/2015 7:43:43 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: SeekAndFind

The real mistake in Iraq was in pretending they could be a democracy.

Getting rid of Saddam was a good thing but I think we should have tamed someone from within his regime to take over.


8 posted on 04/27/2015 7:43:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SeekAndFind

It was a bigger mistake not to leave a sizable security force in Iraq.


9 posted on 04/27/2015 7:44:38 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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Where do we go from here, Rand? Are you running to be president in 2003 or 2016? Your constant harping on the decision to go into Iraq is academic, petty and irrelevant. Saying you wouldn’t have gone into Iraq is not a policy for the future. What will you do now is the question. Period.


10 posted on 04/27/2015 7:45:05 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe." - Mark 5:36)
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Was Chamberlain right all along?

/s


11 posted on 04/27/2015 7:46:08 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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Ok. We got back from desert storm and everyone except me said oh duh you guys shoulda killed Hussein

And I said no it was not the mission. We’re not in the business of overtly assassinating people plus it would’ve caused a major vaccuum of power and imbalance we’d have to pay for. Geo bush as questionable as he was had been head of CIA and had a good team. Of course he was right. Never stuck up for himself in public came across as a wimp

And no one cared what I had to say because I’m just a stupid girl blonde

Now the Zelig rand Paul says it and ohh we re so brilliant

Kak!!!!!


12 posted on 04/27/2015 7:46:42 PM PDT by stanne
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To: SeekAndFind

i agree with him on this point. Gulf War 1 OTOH was a proper response to an invasion.


13 posted on 04/27/2015 7:47:15 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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I disagree, but it doesn’t matter because I don’t support Rand Paul and eventually he’s going to flame out.


17 posted on 04/27/2015 7:47:58 PM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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It might have made sense if Bush had followed through. But he didn’t.

I thought his plan would be to take on Iraq, capture the oil fields, secure our oil supply, and then take on the Saudis, who were the real force behind 9/11. That way, if the Saudis blew up their fields, we could soon fix them, and rely on Iraqi oil in the meantime.

The war started well, in spite of the sabotage by Turkey, but it went downhill from there, and soon became pointless. And after Bush defeated Saddam Hussein, he gave the oil away to the Chinese and the French. Great job! Bush broke the basic rule: Never start a war unless you intend to win it.


18 posted on 04/27/2015 7:48:07 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Let’s face it ... it would definitely be a mistake to choose Rand Paul ... :-) ...


19 posted on 04/27/2015 7:48:20 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SeekAndFind

We did the right thing, we just can’t get any solid footing with immigrants out voting us.

At best we get a narrow victory, and then the left just undoes everything. There is no longer any national will in America, no overall plan of we win, they lose, no national identity, or national goals, or national anything, no us against them.

We were right to penetrate into the heart of Islam, we just didn’t hold and consolidate our gains and follow a 50 year plan to rehabilitate and reshape the Middle East.


21 posted on 04/27/2015 7:48:49 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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It was Obama’s foreign policy in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria and Yemen that led to Islamists taking control. While the Iraq War preceded what is happening in Middle East, it was not the cause. I remember “Arab Spring”, US troops withdrawal, and arming of rebels preceding it - all happening during Obama admin


24 posted on 04/27/2015 7:49:27 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree completely.

Saddam and his army should have been used to conquer Saudi Arabia, then turned into Iran to meet the joint US-Indian task force coming through Afghanistan after the conquest of Pakistan.


25 posted on 04/27/2015 7:49:42 PM PDT by Jim Noble (If you can't discriminate, you are not free)
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Would the Pauls like to explain the phrase “Law of Nations” in the constitution to us?

They are no better than the liberals in picking and choosing the bits they like in the document.


26 posted on 04/27/2015 7:49:52 PM PDT by crz
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I was never for it and said so at the time. I said so to my battalion commander who was very gung ho to go as were most of the soldiers in my unit.

I always figured that Iran and North Korea would be the big winners and nothing useful would come of it.

29 posted on 04/27/2015 7:51:31 PM PDT by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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Perspective is important. Nothing that was intentionally given back after being won was ultimately worth fighting for.


34 posted on 04/27/2015 7:53:54 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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