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Cruz & Walker vs. Bush & Rubio on Amnesty and Immigration
Conservative HQ ^ | April 23, 2015 | George Rasley, CHQ Editor

Posted on 04/23/2015 3:26:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The battle lines of the 2016 Republican primaries are being formed more quickly than many of the establishment media pundits seem to realize and one of the first issues to form a fissure in the field and to, surprisingly, put two candidates with different bases in the Party apparently on the same side are immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens.

That Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio should end up as the leading pro-amnesty and pro-expanding legal immigration is unsurprising.

During a stop in New Hampshire “gringo aplatanado” Jeb Bush arrogantly referred to his plan to grant amnesty to illegal aliens (which no one has seen on paper by the way) as “the grown up plan” and later endorsed the idea of granting these same illegal aliens a path to citizenship, which would naturally include the right to vote and the “entitlement” to welfare, Social Security and a host of other taxpayer funded benefits.

Given that Jeb Bush endorsed the Gang of Eight bill back in 2013 and even urged a reluctant House to pass it or a similar measure, and re-endorsed the bill a month ago at a New Hampshire press gaggle, we can fairly stipulate that Bush and Rubio are in 100% agreement on what a “grown up plan” for amnesty and open borders looks like.

And in case you’ve forgotten, in addition to including a huge budget-busting Obama-inspired spending plan it pretty much dissolved American sovereignty and remade the American electorate in a way that would guarantee Democratic Party hegemony for decades to come.

The Gang of Eight bill was managed by the rules of the oldest game in Washington – packing a bill with spending and special interest favors that would never stand the smell test of public opinion on their own, but might gain a vote or two for the “comprehensive” bill.

In addition to setting up a “path to citizenship” the Gang of Eight bill also doled out millions of dollars in taxpayer money to various leftwing race-based interest groups, such as La Raz, to subsidize their efforts to advance the progressive agenda through voter registration of the newly legalized illegal aliens.

The Gang of Eight bill also expanded various special visa programs, such as the temporary work visas the tech industry wants.

Rubio could have “fixed” that problem for the tech industry simply by upping the number of such visas available under the current program.

Instead, the Gang of Eight bill created a new program which effectively wiped out any time limits or penalties for overstaying such visas resulting in, for all practical purposes, the creation of an open border.

So with Bush having endorsed and re-endorsed Rubio’s amnesty and immigration plan they are the leading pro-amnesty advocates in the GOP -- like we said -- no surprise.

What is surprising is that Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker has joined Texas Senator Ted Cruz in opposition to not just amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens already here, but in also opposing expanding the legal immigration that poses not only a national security threat, but a threat to the quality of life for millions of middle-income Americans whose jobs are threatened and whose wages have already stagnated due to the ever-expanding wave of “techno-coolies” flooding the engineering, computer science and other white collar professions.

Ted Cruz and Alabama’s Senator Jeff Sessions have been the principle opponents in the Senate of the Gang of Eight approach to amnesty for illegal aliens and expanding legal immigration. Indeed, during the Committee mark-up Cruz offered as an amendment one of the best alternatives to the Gang of Eight bill – a border security only bill with no pork and unrelated provisions in it.

Walker’s position has been less consistent than Cruz’s; Walker first made unclear, but generally pro-amnesty statements and has then slowly walked that position back to the point where this week he came out in full Jeff Sessions mode to oppose both amnesty and expansion of legal immigration.

What makes Scott Walker’s newly clarified position so surprising is that the Walker is almost entirely the political creation of the business and Chamber of Commerce wing of the Republican Party that supports amnesty and most especially the expansion of legal immigration that would allow them to continue to lower their costs by importing “techno-coolies” to displace American engineers, computer programmers and other middle-income professional employees.

The Chamber and various business interests pumped millions of dollars into Scott Walker’s campaigns in Wisconsin, particularly his successful effort to fight a union-inspired recall, and according to the “dance with the one what brung ya” calculus of politics you’d think Walker would adopt their position on amnesty and expanding legal immigration, but this week he joined Ted Cruz and came out strongly against the Bush – Rubio positions on those issues.

Jeffrey Anderson in a piece for The Weekly Standard titled “Walker’s Smart Play On Immigration” lays out that Walker isn’t just right for policy purposes—it’s a political winner too.

“Scott Walker’s recent comments suggesting that the United States’ policy on legal immigration should be focused on what’s good for American workers — a seemingly obvious point that nevertheless has ruffled feathers — offers further evidence of the Wisconsin governor’s political savvy,” Anderson wrote. “When two of one’s strongest competitors (namely, Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio) share a weakness on an issue, it’s smart to draw attention to that issue by making clear there is daylight between you and them.”

Walker’s move toward Cruz on immigration and amnesty is indeed good policy and disavowing his corporatist roots in favor of a more populist position on amnesty and immigration is also smart politics, but it leaves Walker open to attacks from both the right and the left for flip-flopping or “evolving” in a way that is more political calculus than policy commitment.

But anything that defines Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio as the pro-amnesty, anti-job candidates they are is helpful, so we’re with our long-time friend Phyllis Schlafly, Founder and CEO of Eagle Forum, who welcomed Walker to the fight for American jobs by saying, “I’m thrilled to see that Scott Walker wants to defend American jobs and understands that American voters are directly impacted by immigration — both illegal and legal.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; bush; corporatewelfare; gangofeight; h1b; immigration; legalimmigration; rubio; scottwalker; tedcruz
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To: stanne

If his word isn’t good enough for you, then I’m certain mine won’t be.

A guy that lies to me, is a guy in the hip pocked of the GOPe.

I’m sorry, but that’s my take on it.

Conservatives don’t like. You may not agree with them, but at least they won’t lie.


21 posted on 04/23/2015 5:53:45 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh I totally agree with you.

Walker gives no conversion story


22 posted on 04/23/2015 6:08:51 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I had hoped you hadn’t responded yet as I wanted to post an apology before you said anything.

I reread your comments and realized I had taken the wrong tone with you. I am sorry for that.

Your wording coupled with my vision at that moment led me to misinterpret your meaning. I am very sorry for that.

I’m not trying to imply it was your fault. I obliviously think it was written fine, since when I reread it I quickly realized the mistake was all mine.

Your response was more kind that I deserved. Thank you.

It’s nice to know we’re in agreement. I appreciate your initial note.


23 posted on 04/23/2015 6:24:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: vmivol00

No, I’m not of a mind to give that a vote of confidence myself.

I suppose it could happen. In this case it didn’t.


24 posted on 04/23/2015 6:26:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne

Oh not a problem.

It was very wordy.

So many people support Walker with no vetting. I should think people have had enough of not vetting people

It truly is like a bad junior prom


25 posted on 04/23/2015 6:28:23 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Erik Latranyi
Disclaimer: I agree with your position, but it will not work in front of an emotional public.

Optics and spin are better than speaking truth to power?

Look, I love Walker, but on immigration he has been all over the board. His latest statements are good, but he's missing that Patton factor.

26 posted on 04/23/2015 6:47:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Walker flip flops so much I don’t trust him. He’s probably telling the voters one thing in public, and the Chamber of Commerce something entirely different behind closed doors. Ted Cruz is the best candidate, and it’s not even close.


27 posted on 04/23/2015 6:55:11 PM PDT by JJHLH1
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To: gorush

You had me at Cruz/Walker....


28 posted on 04/23/2015 9:33:00 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Look, I love Walker, but on immigration he has been all over the board. His latest statements are good, but he's missing that Patton factor.

When someone on our side has the "Patton Factor" they are assaulted for being closed-minded and rigid.

They cannot use that against Walker.

Walker can say that he took a line against illegal immigration in Wisconsin to protect taxpayers and enforce the law as best a governor could do. Walker can say he is sympathetic with those who struggle to come to this country and take risks, but he realized that American workers and Americans must come first.

Walker will show how he changed his mind after touring the border states and witnessing the economic damage inflicted on American workers, including immigrants who came here through the proper channels, by the flood of illegals.

We must win the public support to get tough on immigration first. Americans do not favor rounding up and deporting poor people. Liberals love that emotional play on TV.

So, Walker is framing the argument that we must do what is good for American workers first, everyone else second.

Then, if Walker wins the White House, he should put a strong conservative in as Attorney General. This is where Ted Cruz would shine! He could dismantle the ATF, reform the FBI and actually enforce our border laws...strongly!

They could send a message to the states that the federal gov't will work with local law enforcement to deport illegals who commit crimes.

It could turn the entire issue around on the liberals.

29 posted on 04/24/2015 4:00:57 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Hillary is the most qualified candidate to finish the destruction of this nation.)
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To: Parmenio; ColdOne; Yossarian; knittnmom; sf4dubya; Mr. Peabody; wally_bert; dowcaet; ...
H-1B ping. Let me know if you want to be added to this list (or removed).
30 posted on 04/24/2015 8:01:09 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: stanne
Question - Is the H 1B program so many want to tag Cruz with unconstitutional?

I don't think so; why do you ask? The problem with H-1B is that it's bad for American workers.

31 posted on 04/24/2015 8:03:57 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Well, as we have seen, managing the workers is secondary at least, to constitutional protection and defense which are the concern of the president

If what he’s suggesting is not unconstitutional I can’t be as concerned as I am with illegal imm


32 posted on 04/24/2015 8:52:49 AM PDT by stanne
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To: DoughtyOne; stanne

“A guy that lies to me, is a guy in the hip pocket of the GOPe.”

NAILED.

No second chances. 2nd chances fail 100% of the time, as my tagline proves.


33 posted on 04/24/2015 8:59:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stanne; DoughtyOne

” So many people support Walker with no vetting. I should think people have had enough of not vetting people”

I have posted the background on Walker repeatedly, and I’m done doing it.


34 posted on 04/24/2015 9:01:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Hmm. Haven’t seen anything but ‘oh it’s well known. If you don’t know I’m not going to tell you’

Not good enough at all


35 posted on 04/24/2015 9:14:27 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne; DoughtyOne

http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/03/09/12-reasons-why-conservatives-should-reject-scott-walker/

Plenty more where this came from.

Do some work yourself, okay?


36 posted on 04/24/2015 9:50:49 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stanne

Thank you Stanne. I agree. It is so strange to watch people trash the Clintons and Obama for lying, expressing no understanding how anyone could vote for a liar like them, and then jump in to support our own liar. It’s beneath contemptible.

It is like a bad junior prom. I’m looking for the braces...


37 posted on 04/24/2015 10:59:59 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yep, agreed...


38 posted on 04/24/2015 11:21:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Would you mind linking me in to that if you have the ability to find one of those posts without too much effort?

I’d like to see what you had to say.


39 posted on 04/24/2015 11:22:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Thanks for the link.

As I suspected, Walker is not a Conservative in his gut.

He has done some good things, and I believe in giving credit when people do good things. Walker is no exception there.

I do not like it when a man does ‘some’ good things, and then tries to use them to convince the public he’s someone he’s not.

His downright lie that his immigration policy has changed is beneath contempt. Trying to capitalize on that smoke and mirrors lie, is not any better than a lie from Obama or the Clintons.

This guy is not the real deal.


40 posted on 04/24/2015 11:31:12 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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