the erfs were popular on one block...in Berkeley..but they coulda been somebody if they could have gotten on the radio....
it just so happens that I located their first album...
Posted on 04/22/2015 6:35:37 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
San Francisco is unreasonably monopolizing spectacular Hetch Hetchy Valley by using it as a 117-billion-gallon reservoir, says a new lawsuit in a decades-old fight to restore the Yosemite National Park landmark.
The lawsuit asks a court to require a plan for improving the city’s water system so no water is lost in restoring the valley. It also asks for modification or removal of O’Shaughnessy Dam in Yosemite to let the Tuolumne River flow again.
The complaint was filed Tuesday in Tuolumne County Superior Court on the 177th birthday of conservationist John Muir, who lost the bitter fight a century ago over San Francisco’s reservoir in California’s premier national park. The plaintiff is Restore Hetch Hetchy, a nonprofit advocate for restoring the valley.
(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...
these morons have no idea what this would do to Yosemite Valley...nor do they actually care.
They say John Muir died of a broke heart over this. The whole idea of reclaiming Hetch Hetchy is fascinating. How long would it take before the valley wasn't a stump ridden mud puddle? 40, 50, 100 years?
Environmentalists (right on this one) vs San Fran Nan. Popcorn please.
Actually, Hetch-Hetchy is not in Yosemite Valley - it is sort of a “twin” to Yosemite. But to think that at a time when we already lack enough surface storage for water, they are going to try to eliminate even more... just shows what idiots some of these greenies are.
Of course, I would be lying if I said there wasn’t a certain amount of perverse pleasure in watching the lefties in SF face losing their water supply at the hands of the environmental movement.
But if it actually happened, they would just vote themselves more water from the poor people of the Central Valley - because Democrats are all about taking care of the poor, don’t you know!
No way will the gay area do without lush landscaping. No frickin’ way. If they could drain Hetch Hetchy and only hit the slums like Novato or East Oakland the libs would but they are all on the same water pipe.
The Tuolumne river runs very clean. There is only several inches of sediment accumulated in the reservoir. The area that was flooded was marshy to begin with and within 10 years or so, scrub and whatnot would probably completely cover the area and within 25, small trees.
The water can be collected further down the way as there are already dams there as well, they just need expanded. I think the biggest issue is the hydro electric power provided by the dam. There's no easy way to generate all of it elsewhere.
My nephew lives in San Francisco and he's both for and against reclaiming the valley at the same time. Hetch Hetchy is difficult to hike so it's somewhat still pristine, unlike Yosemite valley which is overrun. So take away the dam and you have to burn more coal and tourists will wreck the area...leave the dam and you're not supplicating yourself sufficiently at the alter of Gaia.
Due to heavy spring flooding from the Sierra melt, and the burning of the forests by Indians, it’s pretty much always been a muddy, marshy meadow covered with tree stumps.
Karma is a bitch!
It was the SF based Sierra Club that led the fight to ‘restore’ lake Owens and deprive the much hated Angelino’s of the water they were ‘stealing’ from the north.
They set the precedence and now they pay the price!
The Indians never burned the forests. They burned the underbrush to preserve the forests.
The standard the left uses to block drilling oil wells is that “ANWAR won’t provide a drop of oil for ten years, so let’s not bother.”
Hetch-Hetchy won’t be forested in ten years, so lets not bother...
Because leftists’ lawns must remain ...
GREEN.
Unless they can figure out how to raise Don Pedro Reservoir to make up for the loss of Hetch Hetchy at a reasonable price, this idea is going nowhere fast.
“No way will the gay area do without lush landscaping. No frickin’ way. If they could drain Hetch Hetchy and only hit the slums like Novato or East Oakland the libs would but they are all on the same water pipe.”
Actually, neither Novato nor East Oakland share the SF water supply.
How long would it take before the valley wasn’t a stump ridden mud puddle? 40, 50, 100 years? —
Get the illegals, the ones do what ‘we’ won’t do, to re-plant the area. Start with pot.
Go after the Central Valley's water supplies.
To call them idiots is inaccurate and dangerous.
Foolish idealist or ideologues is more accurate.
They are educated intelligent people. Educated in the Green ideology but they do know how to advocate for their cause and there in lies the danger.
We on the Right have too often underestimated our enemy and have thereby lost many important battles. We need to learn how to counter their arguments effectively if we are to win more battles and ultimately the war.
Ir we continues to underestimate our enemy by mistakenly thinking them idiots we can not win. Their ideals may be idiotic but those who espouse those ideals repeatedly defeat us on the battlefield of politics.
The process of ecological succession, the natural progression over time to climax forest, would begin before the soil in the drained reservoir was dry.
The succession process varies with the location and could take years to reach the stage of climax forest. the restoration of green plants would however cover the entire area within a year or two.
I would refer to them as idiots...as per their idiotic agenda and behaviors.
theyre dangerous LOONS!
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