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To: Impy

So, by your measure, the founding fathers - those who designed, debated and eventually wrought the ratification of the Constitution for the united States of America - were less than “paragons of liberty,” eh, genius?

Funny how all those today, who believe themselves smarter than the men who created this nation, are the first to bemoan how bad things have gotten - precisely because we have moved away from the design given us .... “A republic, if you can keep it.”


8 posted on 04/18/2015 3:48:09 PM PDT by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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9 posted on 04/18/2015 3:51:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: WTFOVR
So, by your measure, the founding fathers - those who designed, debated and eventually wrought the ratification of the Constitution for the united States of America - were less than “paragons of liberty,” eh, genius?

Ummmmmm NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Try rereading what I wrote. I am speaking of CURRENT STATE LEGISLATORS. I said nothing at all about the founders.

10 posted on 04/18/2015 4:07:09 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: WTFOVR; Impy; BillyBoy

The Constitution was not a perfect document, it was created by men, not by God. That’s also why there was an amendment process to address additional issues that would come along in time. The selection of the Senators didn’t work out as intended, despite the teeth-gnashing denials of folks around here whom are very short on the history of why it failed and how much worse it would be if it were still in place today given the state political dynamics.


11 posted on 04/18/2015 4:08:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: WTFOVR; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj

BTW, it was the founders, in their wisdom, who MADE THE CONSTITUTION AMENDABLE because they knew changes might be needed. And thank God they did.


12 posted on 04/18/2015 4:10:53 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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