Posted on 04/17/2015 1:44:35 PM PDT by Petrosius
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I don’t disagree with your assertion, but I was simply boiling it down to the effective fact WRT action in court.
That is the proximate locus of failure of the argument.
As to the general public, people are at least 2:1 opposed to the destruction of marriage, even in liberal states.
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Yes. When you have unjust laws, it is a matter of time before the normalization of vice in the populace and worldview becomes evil and vulgar (like the Weimar Republic did, which created the Nazi movement and 90% of irrational Germans who simply loved Hitler).
The problem is:
1)—There is no education of children, just indoctrination into tribalism (Marxism)-—they are fed vice and stupidity 24/7. Words matter and when the press allows no debate of ideas (political correctness/Cultural Marxism) there is no Truth/God allowed in the public square and the minds of children in the culture.
Even the Catholic schools destroyed their curricula to promote ignorance and stupidity and no possibility of abstract, profound thinking. Everything is to distract them from God/Truth/Virtue (Excellence). Education prior to John Dewey gave the tools (Classical Education) which gave children the Reason and Logic so they could become critical thinkers-—now schools destroy Reason and Logic and Virtue intentionally. Truth/Facts create cognitive dissonance in the brainwashed adults—most people today.
2) The control of language and Words by the Leftists: He who controls the Words, will control the Worldview. (Wittgenstein) The Left controls the information/all curricula in schools and all MSM since early 1900s. When all you hear is lies and misinformation, there is no possibility of “thinking”.
(The Left put “homosexual” in front of the word marriage over 30 years ago and made something totally absurd and immoral and irrational, into something”Good” although it is in opposition to the “...Laws of Nature and nature’s God” (the Constitution and our Ethics system (Justice System)). Homosexual unions deny children their biological parent which is their Natural Right from God-—and there is no Natural Right to sodomy.
We need to gain the minds of our children and the public square again.....until then—the culture will rot any children exposed to their filth and lies and godless worldview where man is just a worthless animal to be herded and culled and killed—individual God-Given Rights are non-existant..
Ah, a surrender monkey treatise. How quaint.
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I’m also confused.
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Ya wanna go get a beer?
Amen.
This is called a "Christian nation", mostly because we have so many people who attend church every Sunday.
But if you count up the truly "Christian" among us, it's really a small number of people.
And yes, this is sad and pathetic.
Look at how many "good Catholics" support gay marriage and abortion.
Exhibit B: The Episcopal church which thinks that "environmental justice" is WAY more important than say, preaching the teachings of Christ.
Taking a long shower= the unpardonable sin.
Taking an unborn human life= "we've got to keep up with the times".
Now here's my life-long partner. We're getting married this week.
If you judge that as "immoral", you're a bad man who needs to be sent away.
Amen.
This is called a "Christian nation", mostly because we have so many people who attend church every Sunday.
But if you count up the truly "Christian" among us, it's really a small number of people.
And yes, this is sad and pathetic.
Look at how many "good Catholics" support gay marriage and abortion.
Exhibit B: The Episcopal church which thinks that "environmental justice" is WAY more important than say, preaching the teachings of Christ.
Taking a long shower= the unpardonable sin.
Taking an unborn human life= "we've got to keep up with the times".
Now here's my life-long partner. We're getting married this week.
If you judge that as "immoral", you're a hypocrite.
Sorry for double post!
Wrong post reply? I don’t know why my post would merit that response.
The confusion comes from not differentiating between marriage, a union based on pledged love and personal commitment before God, and thus a religious event - and civil union, a government status that enables shared administrative representation.
Separate the two and it all becomes clear. Marriage should not be reachable by the government because its love and religious qualities are outside the evaluative powers of government by definition.
Marriage should also not be termed alone, but in reference to the spiritual tradition, religion or church from which it is derived in each case. This is true anyway - religions don’t generally accept marriages outside of their own tradition.
Then, as a separate event, people should have to file a separate petition for civil union with the government that is - never - called “marriage.” And to prove it, marriage should not be a prerequisite for civil union. The government deals in contacts, so a civil union is a contract between two (or more) people and the government - but it is not a marriage.
The bottom line is that if you think the government solemnizes marriage, then you equate government with God - and that is the definition of communism.
Linking marriage only with its religious source is the solution to this dilemma. If your religion doesn’t perform gay marriage, then it should be irrelevant to you if some other religion does. And if government gets out of the marriage business and only administrates civil unions, then it has no way to have any effect on anyone’s marriage.
Problem solved.
“I dont know why my post would merit that response.”
Exactly. I don’t know why either.
“I dont know why my post would merit that response.”
I think I get it. My post was wrongly directed to you. Sorry. Ignore everything I posted previously.
:) Good, I was hoping that was what it was.
You are the most right.
I prefer the end argument...
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Civil unions do not solve the problem. In a free society I should not be forced to recognize or give benefits to any non-marital union. Furthermore, I should be able to recognize and freely give benefits to marriage that are not open to others. Nor should the state recognize these unnatural unions and give them the sanction of society.
"People" are nothing but an obstacle in the way of Transhumanist/Postgenderists achieving their inhumane goals.
http://www.google.com/search?q=Transhumanism+Postgenderism
>>In a free society I should not be forced
>>to recognize or give benefits to any non-marital union.
“To compel a man to furnish funds [or bake cakes] for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
-—Thomas Jefferson
+1
The argument is a constitutionally protected right argument against a "whatever we feel like" human "right". The argument is correct, but the presentation is bass ackwards.
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