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Democrats’ civil war over free trade
Politico ^ | 16 April 2015 | Adam Behsudi

Posted on 04/17/2015 10:41:30 AM PDT by Theoria

The open in-fighting ramped up after a breakthrough on the historic bill was announced.

The most important trade bill in a decade has pitted Harry Reid against President Barack Obama. Liberal Democrat Rosa DeLauro against moderate Democrat Ron Kind. Labor unions against pro-business Democrats. And Elizabeth Warren against virtually everyone who supports a landmark piece of legislation that would allow the president to close what could be the biggest free-trade deal in history.

The open warring among Democrats over fast-track trade legislation, and the party’s broader existential crisis on free trade, grew more pronounced Thursday as senior lawmakers announced a breakthrough on the trade bill. Many Democrats still feel the burn, 20 years later, of lost manufacturing jobs from the North American Free Trade Agreement — pushed through by former President Bill Clinton — and they fear another Democratic president is on the verge of turning his back on working-class Americans by negotiating a trade deal that would send jobs overseas.

What’s at stake substantively is giving the president streamlined authority to negotiate the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a 12-country free-trade deal that would dwarf NAFTA. But there’s also much more at stake politically for a Democratic Party whose progressive wing is enjoying an upswing thanks to the aggressive populism of Warren and liberals like Sen. Bernie Sanders, who are unabashedly anti-free trade deal. Obama wants to cement a legacy on global free trade, but his work negotiating with Republicans has created several factions within the Democratic Party.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cromnibus; doddfrank; election2016; elizabethwarren; fauxahontas; freetrade; harryreid; hillaryclinton; hitlery; lieawatha; massachusetts; nafta; ronkind; rosadelauro; tna; tpp; trade; transpacific
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1 posted on 04/17/2015 10:41:30 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Gee, whoda thunk?

Democrats actually interested in working class jobs?!

Say it ain’t so!

Clearly this is a mistake - these peeples be mostly white!

The Rat party can’t worry about that, can it?

I mean they have the teeming masses of the Third World to worry about, who cares about production line workers in Michigan?

Probably militia guys anyway, so the hell with them!

/RAT party stock rant...


2 posted on 04/17/2015 10:51:52 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Theoria

quote “giving the president streamlined authority to negotiate “

um... NOPE!

I am not for giving Obama one IOTA of more authority!


3 posted on 04/17/2015 10:53:00 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Regulator

Clinton embraced NAFTA to cut off Perot’s momentum, and the Democrats have been paying the price of that calculation ever since.


4 posted on 04/17/2015 10:54:05 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Theoria

....And the two party sellout of the American worker continues.


5 posted on 04/17/2015 11:05:43 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Regulator
Democrats actually interested in working class jobs?! Say it ain’t so!

It probably isn't so.

These aren't jobs for you and me, these are jobs for the future illegal-alien-cum-citizen.

After all, once they become legal, we have to give them something to do, right?

-PJ

6 posted on 04/17/2015 11:14:06 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: KoRn
” ... there’s also much more at stake politically for a Democratic Party whose progressive wing is enjoying an upswing thanks to the aggressive populism of Warren and liberals like Sen. Bernie Sanders, who are unabashedly anti-free trade ...”

Are you siding with Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders on this issue?

7 posted on 04/17/2015 11:15:05 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Theoria

Started in 1917..... in Russia...


8 posted on 04/17/2015 11:16:25 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Regulator

I’m expecting that, should Obama get authority, he will try to negotiate a treaty that enshrines most of the things that dems can’t get through Congress as a treaty—Kyoto, regulation of the ocean. There will be the usual sops to big business and that will hold R votes. And he will buy the D votes for ratification with all sorts of green crap and probably firearms regulation.


9 posted on 04/17/2015 11:33:01 AM PDT by ModelBreaker (')
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Clinton embraced NAFTA to cut off Perot’s momentum

I thought Ross for Boss was against the NAFTA ideas.


10 posted on 04/17/2015 11:41:13 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton

exactly!

Perot was against NAFTA (remember the giant sucking sound) and the issue was used to unite both Bush and Clinton against him in the debates, to make him look like a quack.

But history has proved Perot right.


11 posted on 04/17/2015 12:11:52 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy; Mase; SAJ; 1010RD

let the good times role ping


12 posted on 04/17/2015 12:26:30 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: TexasFreeper2009
...the giant sucking sound...

---which ended up coming from the oval office and having nothing to do with import tax hikes after all...

13 posted on 04/17/2015 12:30:08 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Perot was against NAFTA (remember the giant sucking sound)

I think that was the wind blowin' thru ol' Perot's noggin.

to make him look like a quack.

Not hard to make a nut look like a nut.

But history has proved Perot right.

When?

14 posted on 04/17/2015 12:36:44 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: expat_panama

Role??


15 posted on 04/17/2015 12:52:52 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Toddsterpatriot

when he said that NAFTA would cost the US manufacturing jobs, he was right.

You can’t have “free trade” when the other countries opperate by completely different rules.

When country __________ can pay its workers $1 a month with no benefits and no environmental regulation. No US company can compete.

That’s just a fact. Perot rightly pointed out this fact, and both the left and the right used the issue to gang up on him and against American workers


16 posted on 04/17/2015 12:56:10 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: SAJ
Damn spell checker. OK, "roal"
17 posted on 04/17/2015 1:04:03 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: TexasFreeper2009
NAFTA would cost the US manufacturing jobs, he was right.

That's true, according to the Labor Dept. we got fewer manufacturing jobs than we did when Perot made that prediction.   Then again, the BLS also says the unemployment rate's lower, inflation's down, and incomes are higher....

18 posted on 04/17/2015 1:22:08 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Theoria

The house of cards is all falling apart and they need to glue it back together to get Hillary elected.


19 posted on 04/17/2015 1:29:16 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Theoria
A few months ago, WIkileaks published a leaked portion of the agreement,which included this on the cover page:
20 January 2015

This Document Contains TPP CONFIDENTIAL Information MODIFIED HANDLING AUTHORIZED* 12-1

Derived from: Classification Guidance dated March 4, 2010

Reason: 1.4(b)

Declassify on: Four years from entry into force of the TPP agreement or, if no agreement enters into force, four years from the close of the negotiations.

* This document must be protected from unauthorized disclosure, but may be mailed or transmitted over unclassified e-mail or fax, discussed over unsecured phone lines, and stored on unclassified computer systems. It must be stored in a locked or secured building, room, or container.


20 posted on 04/17/2015 1:48:31 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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