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Rand Paul reignites the term limits debate
HotAir ^ | April 8, 2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 04/11/2015 5:15:51 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal

When Rand Paul announced his “official” candidacy for the presidency this week he sparked a number of debates, not only in the media and among his opponents, but inside the GOP. One of the less noticed ones revolved around a comment he made during the speech regarding the institution of term limits for congressional offices, similar to what we have for the Oval Office. This drew a quick response from our friend Matt Lewis, who feels that Rand is missing the mark.

"During his presidential announcement on Tuesday, Sen. Rand Paul took a stand for term limits. “We limit the president two terms” he said. “It is about time we limit the terms of Congress.”

This struck me as an odd thing for a libertarian-leaning candidate to say. After all, shouldn’t we the people get to decide whom we want to represent us…or not?"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: congress; libertarian; limits; paul; rand; randpaul; term; termlimits
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After he has supported/endorsed Cochran, Mitch, Lamar, Pat Roberts and Eric Cantor.

Maybe the pesky Grassley, Sessions and Vitter can be removed from standing in the way of Rand/Chamber amnesty agenda.

1 posted on 04/11/2015 5:15:52 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
- Two six-year terms for POTUS
- Four three-year terms for Congressmen.
- One single twelve-year term for Senators

2 posted on 04/11/2015 5:25:08 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

I’d be ok to lose one good congressperson every four to six years as long as he takes 20-30 money grubbing, power hungry congress slobs with him.


3 posted on 04/11/2015 5:28:50 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal by any other name...)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Is this the same Paul that whined he could not run for President
and maintain his Senate seat too?

At the time KY rules did not allow it. His buddy Mitch helped change
those rules so he could do both.

Paul likes term limits as long as they do not apply to him.


4 posted on 04/11/2015 5:29:02 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

One Term in Office,

Two Terms in Jail!!!


5 posted on 04/11/2015 5:33:08 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: EXCH54FE

LOL! Got that right.


6 posted on 04/11/2015 5:35:29 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Better solution: Nobody can run for an office which they will occupy longer than they've spent in the military and private sector. They can't run for re-election either unless they meet this rule.

Joe Biden spent a grand total of two years in the private sector before he was elected U.S. Senator. Those two years should have enabled him to run for a house seat and no more.

7 posted on 04/11/2015 5:45:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

I like term limits.
I like balanced budget amendment.
I am disgusted by $21 Trillion debt on schedule by the time Obummer is out of office.
I do not like borrowing from China to fight wars in middle east. We are broke, can not afford to play world policeman until debt is under control.
I want every illegal deported, no exceptions.


8 posted on 04/11/2015 5:52:23 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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Term limits Yes.

Most of them spend way too must time on the public dole and then they have the audacity to brag about “serving the public” while their net worth doubles or triples or more in a the few years in “public service”. We have become the servants and they have become the elites that have learned how to screw us.


9 posted on 04/11/2015 5:53:52 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Be the person that your dog thinks you are. ( saw it as a bumper sticker))
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To: entropy12

“I like term limits.
I like balanced budget amendment.
I am disgusted by $21 Trillion debt on schedule by the time Obummer is out of office.
I do not like borrowing from China to fight wars in middle east. We are broke, can not afford to play world policeman until debt is under control.
I want every illegal deported, no exceptions.”

DITTO!


10 posted on 04/11/2015 5:55:07 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Be the person that your dog thinks you are. ( saw it as a bumper sticker))
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One term and one term only for all elective offices with a high salary for that term and no residuals. No perks.
That would be a tiny start to where we need to go.
11 posted on 04/11/2015 6:02:10 PM PDT by arthurus (it's true!)
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Unfortunately NONE of the leading GOP contenders want to deport all illegals. Why?

Americans favor deporting all illegals. Why are our politicians in the pockets of their donors & Chamber of Commerce?

Note: I immigrated legally and was awarded US citizenship in 1970.


12 posted on 04/11/2015 6:02:18 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Respectfully,

Could you please explain, with some specificity, how what your proposing would be better?

My God, under your proposal, we would have FOUR MORE YEARS of Jarrett and Obama!

Some of us have thought about jumping off into the Grand Canyon now! With 4 more years of the sob I would lead the charge!


13 posted on 04/11/2015 6:18:49 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: tennmountainman

Obama maintained his Senate seat while he campaigned for President.


14 posted on 04/11/2015 6:25:05 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: Engedi

Each State has their own rules.

KY, until recently did not allow a U.S. Senator to hold his senate seat
and run for President too.

Those rules were recently changed.


15 posted on 04/11/2015 6:29:01 PM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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It’s the law, and the legislature did not change the laws.

The state GOP is toying with the idea of a caucus vs. a primary to avoid the problem of him being on the ballot twice for the primary, but that would not correct the problem of the general election - and the law does not permit replacement candidates. So, if he were to win the nomination, the Senate seat would be forfeit to the Democrats - an automatic gain for them, or he would have to forfeit the 8 electoral votes and not appear on the ballot for President.


16 posted on 04/11/2015 7:10:12 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

Neither term limits nor a balanced budget amendment are conservative OR libertarian. They are attempts to use the power of government to force a result that SOUNDS good, but can’t be achieved through the political process.

Rand could be a great spokesman for liberty in the Senate. Instead, he just wants power. He’s gonna’ go down hard.


17 posted on 04/11/2015 7:23:00 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: Cen-Tejas

I think EEE was allocating 12 years to all elected politicians.

I think 12 years is too long for POTUS and Senators.
Senators should get 2 terms of 4 years each, same as POTUS.

House Reps can have 4 or 5 terms of 2 year each. Because they face the voters every 2 years.


18 posted on 04/11/2015 7:54:23 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: Forgotten Amendments

Are you kidding me? The only reason politicians get huge campaign donations and other favors (Menendez!) is because they have gained lot of power via seniority system.

Which then results in the politicians doing favors to their few benefactors instead of the people.


19 posted on 04/11/2015 7:58:04 PM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: entropy12

I agree with 12 years for Senators and Representatives. POTUS should be left alone.

Also to those who opine “but, can’t we elect who we want so what is the NEED for TL?” I say “my god, where is your head, can’t you see that ALL our problems are traceable to the rampant corruption amongst the fab 535 going back 75 years?”


20 posted on 04/11/2015 9:12:59 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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