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Minor meltdown at education town hall
Arizona Daily Sun ^ | April 05, 2015 | MICHELLE McMANIMON Sun Staff Reporter

Posted on 04/08/2015 1:06:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Audience members were invited to ask the panel members questions during the second half of the meeting. The questions came from teachers, NAU students and faculty, high school students, parents and other Flagstaff residents.

But many of those questions were actually thinly veiled criticisms of Thorpe and Allen’s well-documented opposition to raising corporate taxes. At times, audience members shouted “raise taxes” and snickered or groaned at Thorpe and Allen’s claims that lower taxes would fix Arizona’s economic woes by attracting businesses.

So when an FUSD parent walked up to the microphone, decried how college tuition rates in Arizona have increased 80 percent in the past five years, and criticized Thorpe and Allen for providing tax cuts to corporations, Allen snapped. SOCIALIST COUNTRIES

“You’re asking me, sir, because I have the power to go after other people’s money,” Allen said. “You want me to go after other people’s money because you think it justifies (it) because we’re going to give it to kids for their education. It would have to be done very carefully because, you know, go look up socialist countries.”

The crowd gasped but Allen was not finished.

“Oh yeah?” she said, challenging the audience. “You can’t be polite about what I say but I have to be polite about what you say. You’re all here to beat us up because you’re upset that we just don’t raise taxes.”

Allen also took a few jabs at NAU and the Arizona Board of Regents by telling students they should ask NAU administrators where they are spending money. At one point, she implied NAU spends its funds on cars and credit cards.

(Excerpt) Read more at azdailysun.com ...


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MADISON, Wis. (AP) - Gov. Scott Walker wants to create a new pathway for people with “real-life experience” to get licensed to teach in Wisconsin, but his proposal raised concerns Thursday among those in the education community because it requires no training in how to be an effective teacher.

Walker’s plan was one sentence in a news release that detailed other initiatives designed to help create jobs in high-demand fields. His plan would allow someone to forego collegiate-level education courses and instead permit anyone with a bachelor’s degree who can demonstrate proficiency in the areas they want to teach to be licensed.

It would only apply to subjects in grades 6 to 12. The license would be valid for three years.

The statewide teachers union and the lobbyist for a group representing school principals, superintendents and other administrators criticized the proposal.

“We’ve got some significant concerns about its philosophical underpinning,” said John Forester, lobbyist for the School Administrators Alliance.

He said the evidence shows that high-quality preparation for teachers is what really matters for schoolchildren. Forester said Walker’s proposal “bypasses the skill of being able to teach in an understandable way to children.”..........................

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/22/walker-proposes-new-teacher-licensure-plan/


21 posted on 04/08/2015 5:54:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
...Walker’s proposal “bypasses the skill of being able to teach in an understandable way to children."

That is rich! Based on real-world results of the last 50 years, the education establishment clearly fails miserably in this regard.

22 posted on 04/08/2015 6:23:50 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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To: Do the math

Well said.
Money is not the problem. I’ve seen students being taught math with a stick scratching out math problems in the dirt. If the teacher can teach and if the children want to learn (key) then you can teach math.

For reading you do need some books, but not much else.

It’s not expensive to teach or learn. What is expensive is carrying a huge bloated bureaucracy and expensive facilities that are for the most part not needed


23 posted on 04/08/2015 6:55:21 AM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Cowboy Bob

and where did it get him?


Where he always wanted to be. The Patriot Act and Homeland inSecurity is a KGB piece of work.


24 posted on 04/08/2015 10:07:49 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
“You’re asking me, sir, because I have the power to go after other people’s money... You want me to go after other people’s money because you think it justifies (it) because we’re going to give it to kids for their education. It would have to be done very carefully because, you know, go look up socialist countries... You can’t be polite about what I say but I have to be polite about what you say. You’re all here to beat us up because you’re upset that we just don’t raise taxes.” Allen also took a few jabs at NAU and the Arizona Board of Regents by telling students they should ask NAU administrators where they are spending money. At one point, she implied NAU spends its funds on cars and credit cards.

25 posted on 04/08/2015 12:43:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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