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Minor meltdown at education town hall
Arizona Daily Sun ^ | April 05, 2015 | MICHELLE McMANIMON Sun Staff Reporter

Posted on 04/08/2015 1:06:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 04/08/2015 1:06:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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52% of Arizona’s $9B budget goes to education but it’s never, ever enough.

This is commonplace - most states spend more than half of their budget on education.


2 posted on 04/08/2015 1:21:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Amazing things happen when you stand up to Socialists (Democrats)... They learn to shut up and behave.

Far too often, the Republicans sit quietly and think “I am a better person then them. I will not step down to their level.”

This kind of thinking makes the Republicans look weak, end emboldens the left. If the republicans learned to aggressively fight back, this country wouldn’t be facing as many problems as its facing today.

George Bush never fought back...and where did it get him?


3 posted on 04/08/2015 1:54:57 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Isn't it funny that Socialists never want to share their own money?)
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Yes!


4 posted on 04/08/2015 1:56:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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most states spend more than half of their budget on education

And look where it has gotten us. The kids of yesterday are the parents of today and the percentage of those where socialistic teaching stuck is alarmingly high - and getting higher.

5 posted on 04/08/2015 1:58:33 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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I can teach mathematics without any textbook, a calculator would be nice yet it is not necessary. I can use rubber bands to get linear, quadratic, and logarithmic functions. Give me a chalkboard, and I can bring mathematics alive. I have taught at several universities, and been an invited lecturer at dozens of schools. I have taught over seventy different courses at the undergraduate and graduate level. I am a published author, and have discovered thousands of new formulas. I have taught ACT, SAT, and GRE prep classes. I can convince you that a negative number times any other negative number is positive (no it's not a damn rule). However, I am not qualified to teach even at a middle school, because I do not have a teaching certificate. Money is not the problem. So called “educators” are the problem.
6 posted on 04/08/2015 2:00:48 AM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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....However, I am not qualified to teach even at a middle school, because I do not have a teaching certificate. Money is not the problem. So called “educators” are the problem.

bttt!

7 posted on 04/08/2015 2:10:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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And look where it has gotten us......

Parents are getting a good look and I expect that town hall meetings like this will become commonplace.

Push back is happening.

"My child is an honor student at.." bumper stickers have stopped fooling just about everyone - but it was a cheap and useful "Look! Squirrel!" while it lasted.

8 posted on 04/08/2015 2:16:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Please don't *say* LOOK-A-SQUIRREL in front of my Lab!


9 posted on 04/08/2015 2:19:17 AM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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10 posted on 04/08/2015 2:19:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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“You’re asking me, sir, because I have the power to go after other people’s money... You want me to go after other people’s money because you think it justifies (it) because we’re going to give it to kids for their education. It would have to be done very carefully because, you know, go look up socialist countries... You can’t be polite about what I say but I have to be polite about what you say. You’re all here to beat us up because you’re upset that we just don’t raise taxes.” Allen also took a few jabs at NAU and the Arizona Board of Regents by telling students they should ask NAU administrators where they are spending money. At one point, she implied NAU spends its funds on cars and credit cards.

11 posted on 04/08/2015 2:28:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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So when an FUSD parent walked up to the microphone, decried how college tuition rates in Arizona have increased 80 percent in the past five years,


so why aren’t parents and students aiming their dissatisfaction at colleges who are raising costs?

Increasing taxes is gonna do what?? As long as govt is subsidizing college tuition prices will increase.


12 posted on 04/08/2015 2:34:32 AM PDT by RginTN
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"The issue is never the issue; the issue is always the revolution." [In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky wrote: “From the moment an organizer enters a community, he lives, dreams, eats, breathes, sleeps only one thing, and that is to build the mass power base of what he calls the army.”]. Source
13 posted on 04/08/2015 2:42:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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52% of Arizona’s $9B budget goes to education but it’s never, ever enough. This is commonplace - most states spend more than half of their budget on education.

Most of New Jersey's budget goes to teacher salaries and pensions (over 70% of all property taxes go to teachers pockets), and right behind that are the "Abbott Schools" - which are schools in majority black or Hispanic districts that take tax property money from majority white suburb districts because that is what the "constitution" says (according to the NJ Supreme Court). No, I am not joking - its been this way since 1985.


14 posted on 04/08/2015 2:55:42 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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LOLOLOLOL!


15 posted on 04/08/2015 3:31:14 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Raising corporate taxes is a tax on the consumer... Corporations pass the tax on.


16 posted on 04/08/2015 3:43:59 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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Here in NJ 3/4 of our property taxes pay for public schools; it has created a middle upper class core of permanent Dem voters (present in every municipality). We see no results, and as our best & brightest flee we are left with a poorly trained workforce of uneducated young people. Telemarketers speaking second-grade English, cashiers that can’t make change, etc.


17 posted on 04/08/2015 3:58:50 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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School taxes are killing NJ at an accelerating pace; the teachers’ unions are parasitic rackets destroying NJ taxpayers.


18 posted on 04/08/2015 4:01:20 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Do the math

Ah, yes—The “credentialing” racket.

Further insulating the academy from the real world.

My situation is similar to yours. I hold a Ph.D. in applied psychology (industrial/organizational) and have worked in the private sector for over 25 years; including running my own small business for the last 10+ years. Recently, I applied for a faculty position in management/organizational development at a local junior college. Blew the other candidates away in the practical application of principles phase, which was the most heavily weighted part of the interview process. But, because I didn’t have eighteen hours in Business at the graduate level, I was not selected.


19 posted on 04/08/2015 4:22:48 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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Similar stories here. A close friend has taught pre-school for over 20 years was recently discovered to be missing a couple of hours of some training. Instantly DQ’d from teaching until she got the training.

My sister is an award-winning math teacher with 30 years experience. She teaches junior high school kids. Same situation — found to be missing a couple of hours of training.

In both cases this is the result of constantly changing requirements that are fuzzy on what old training counts and what new training is required. The rules get so Byzantine that they almost guarantee everybody is not fully credentialed.

My sister petitioned the state for exemption and won! But it was a horrendous slog through the education bureaucracy.


20 posted on 04/08/2015 4:58:18 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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