Skip to comments.Minor meltdown at education town hall
Posted on 04/08/2015 1:06:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Audience members were invited to ask the panel members questions during the second half of the meeting. The questions came from teachers, NAU students and faculty, high school students, parents and other Flagstaff residents.
But many of those questions were actually thinly veiled criticisms of Thorpe and Allens well-documented opposition to raising corporate taxes. At times, audience members shouted raise taxes and snickered or groaned at Thorpe and Allens claims that lower taxes would fix Arizonas economic woes by attracting businesses.
So when an FUSD parent walked up to the microphone, decried how college tuition rates in Arizona have increased 80 percent in the past five years, and criticized Thorpe and Allen for providing tax cuts to corporations, Allen snapped. SOCIALIST COUNTRIES
Youre asking me, sir, because I have the power to go after other peoples money, Allen said. You want me to go after other peoples money because you think it justifies (it) because were going to give it to kids for their education. It would have to be done very carefully because, you know, go look up socialist countries.
The crowd gasped but Allen was not finished.
Oh yeah? she said, challenging the audience. You cant be polite about what I say but I have to be polite about what you say. Youre all here to beat us up because youre upset that we just dont raise taxes.
Allen also took a few jabs at NAU and the Arizona Board of Regents by telling students they should ask NAU administrators where they are spending money. At one point, she implied NAU spends its funds on cars and credit cards.
(Excerpt) Read more at azdailysun.com ...
52% of Arizona’s $9B budget goes to education but it’s never, ever enough.
This is commonplace - most states spend more than half of their budget on education.
Amazing things happen when you stand up to Socialists (Democrats)... They learn to shut up and behave.
Far too often, the Republicans sit quietly and think “I am a better person then them. I will not step down to their level.”
This kind of thinking makes the Republicans look weak, end emboldens the left. If the republicans learned to aggressively fight back, this country wouldn’t be facing as many problems as its facing today.
George Bush never fought back...and where did it get him?
And look where it has gotten us. The kids of yesterday are the parents of today and the percentage of those where socialistic teaching stuck is alarmingly high - and getting higher.
Parents are getting a good look and I expect that town hall meetings like this will become commonplace.
Push back is happening.
"My child is an honor student at.." bumper stickers have stopped fooling just about everyone - but it was a cheap and useful "Look! Squirrel!" while it lasted.
Youre asking me, sir, because I have the power to go after other peoples money... You want me to go after other peoples money because you think it justifies (it) because were going to give it to kids for their education. It would have to be done very carefully because, you know, go look up socialist countries... You cant be polite about what I say but I have to be polite about what you say. Youre all here to beat us up because youre upset that we just dont raise taxes. Allen also took a few jabs at NAU and the Arizona Board of Regents by telling students they should ask NAU administrators where they are spending money. At one point, she implied NAU spends its funds on cars and credit cards.
So when an FUSD parent walked up to the microphone, decried how college tuition rates in Arizona have increased 80 percent in the past five years,
so why aren’t parents and students aiming their dissatisfaction at colleges who are raising costs?
Increasing taxes is gonna do what?? As long as govt is subsidizing college tuition prices will increase.
Most of New Jersey's budget goes to teacher salaries and pensions (over 70% of all property taxes go to teachers pockets), and right behind that are the "Abbott Schools" - which are schools in majority black or Hispanic districts that take tax property money from majority white suburb districts because that is what the "constitution" says (according to the NJ Supreme Court). No, I am not joking - its been this way since 1985.
Raising corporate taxes is a tax on the consumer... Corporations pass the tax on.
Here in NJ 3/4 of our property taxes pay for public schools; it has created a middle upper class core of permanent Dem voters (present in every municipality). We see no results, and as our best & brightest flee we are left with a poorly trained workforce of uneducated young people. Telemarketers speaking second-grade English, cashiers that can’t make change, etc.
School taxes are killing NJ at an accelerating pace; the teachers’ unions are parasitic rackets destroying NJ taxpayers.
Ah, yes—The “credentialing” racket.
Further insulating the academy from the real world.
My situation is similar to yours. I hold a Ph.D. in applied psychology (industrial/organizational) and have worked in the private sector for over 25 years; including running my own small business for the last 10+ years. Recently, I applied for a faculty position in management/organizational development at a local junior college. Blew the other candidates away in the practical application of principles phase, which was the most heavily weighted part of the interview process. But, because I didn’t have eighteen hours in Business at the graduate level, I was not selected.
Similar stories here. A close friend has taught pre-school for over 20 years was recently discovered to be missing a couple of hours of some training. Instantly DQ’d from teaching until she got the training.
My sister is an award-winning math teacher with 30 years experience. She teaches junior high school kids. Same situation — found to be missing a couple of hours of training.
In both cases this is the result of constantly changing requirements that are fuzzy on what old training counts and what new training is required. The rules get so Byzantine that they almost guarantee everybody is not fully credentialed.
My sister petitioned the state for exemption and won! But it was a horrendous slog through the education bureaucracy.
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