Posted on 04/06/2015 7:10:39 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
New York City mayor Bill de Blasio’s approval ratings have slipped below 50 percent, making it possible he could face a serious primary challenge in 2017. But New York’s pro–de Blasio city council may have found a way to stop that cold: A majority of the council supports giving more than 1 million non-citizens full rights to vote in local elections. That’s one in five adult New Yorkers.
Mayor de Blasio’s approval ratings are much higher among minorities than with whites, who oppose him by a two-to-one margin. Giving non-citizens — most of whom are minorities — the vote could cement far-left dominance of New York City’s government into place.
Legislation by Democratic Queens councilman David Dromm is being prepared for possible debate this spring. It would permit any non-citizen who has legal residency papers to vote for mayor, city council, and other offices. Dromm says that non-citizens pay taxes, contribute to the economy, and often have roots in the community. But he says their needs are often ignored by local officials.
Opponents of the measure say the right to vote is a privilege and shouldn’t be diluted. Eric Ulrich, a Republican city councilman from Queens, told Newsday: “It should only be for United States citizens. It’s also a reason for people who are on a path to citizenship to aspire to citizenship. It’s something for them to look forward to.”
Mayor de Blasio says he is open to a debate about having non-citizens vote but hasn’t explicitly endorsed the measure. But last year he issued municipal ID cards to some 500,000 undocumented immigrants in the city, and no one believes he would veto a bill the city council sent him on non-citizen voting. In 2013, 31 out of 51 city council measures backed the idea but it was opposed by then-mayor Michael Bloomberg and then-city-council-speaker Christine Quinn blocked it from coming to a vote.
The idea of non-citizen voting is an old one, but currently only six communities in Maryland allow it for local elections. Chicago gives voting rights to non-citizens in school-board elections.
But clearly liberals would like to expand non-citizen voting. Kevin Douglas, co-director of policy for New York City’s United Neighborhood Houses, told the liberal blog ThinkProgress “the interests of the citizen body and the legal resident body are essentially the same when they’re living in the same community.” Liberals are already bitter opponents of laws in Arizona and Kansas that require voters to confirm under penalty of perjury they are citizens when they register. One reason for those laws is that there is evidence non-citizens can already choose to vote without much fear of detection.
A study last year by two Old Dominion University professors, based on survey data from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study, indicated that 6.4 percent of all non-citizens voted illegally in the 2008 presidential election, and 2.2 percent did in the 2010 midterms. Given that 80 percent of non-citizens lean Democratic, they cite Al Franken ’s 312-vote win in the 2008 Minnesota U.S. Senate race as one likely tipped by non-citizen voting. That election also had profound consequences. As a senator, Franken cast the 60th vote needed to make Obamacare law.
Supporters of non-citizen voting believe that if they can impose the idea in “the global hub” of New York City, it will catch on elsewhere.
“As New York City goes, so goes the rest of the world,” Councilman Dromm told Britain’s Guardian newspaper.
If you’re going to give the vote to people who aren’t citizens, why not give the vote to people who work in the city but are citizens? They have to deal with the policies set by the Mayor. Oh, wait, that’s right, most of the people who commute are affluent and not likely to vote for the communist. Nevermind then.
James Webb actually said this that the Dems are the party of minorities and no longer have the white vote.
California has already floated the ‘multiple’ vote idea. We moved out of California a few years ago, so I am not sure if it actually did eventually pass. The idea is, in races where you can vote for 2 or 3 people, such as City Council or School Board, that minorities should be allowed to cast all 3 votes for one person. This would allow for more minorities to be elected. I’m not joking. By any means necessary......is destroying our country.
Now in NYC, it is for the mayor.
They win in 2016 and we have eight more years of hell, it will be for the President.
I know I will get slammed big time for this, but: I will take a Rino over a Hillary any day of the week.
Of course you should be able to vote in a NYC election, even if you don't live there. All you need do is state that NYC policies might somehow affect you. No actual evidence of that should be necessary.
But why stop there? NYC policies might also affect people living overseas. Those people should be able to vote in NYC elections as well.
After all, fair is fair. If NYC might affect you, then you should have a say in its governance.
Webb is the last of the Mohicans: working class whites in the Democrat party.
Will they ever get back to that?
No. It’s done. The Rat party is filled with crazed agitators screaming “white privilege!” meaning “give us what you have!!”. Ain’t never gonna come back.
The funniest thing I heard during the fall elections was the rationale from some illegal about why he had registered and voted: he said well, their policies directly affect me and Mexico, so I should have a say.
I'm still chuckling about that because you know, he had a point...if you're a Democrat!
He told me he was sitting there in the meeting and all the hispanic and black women and gay guys were ragging on the white men of this country. He's a white guy. Every time he attempted to say something they shouted him down. Now this is a meeting where close and congenial discussions help to decide what is going into the platform for the state of Texas.
He came away from the meeting with the opinion that white men are no longer wanted in the democratic party. That was in 2000 and he voted Republican for the first time in 2012.
removing the right to vote from citizens ?
So Of Course they will!
A number of years ago I overheard two white kids (late teens, early twenties maybe) talking to each other.
One says to the other, “The Democrats used to be for hard working people. Now they’re for people who hardly work.”
That would make a great GOP campaign slogan.
“Will New York City Give Non-Citizens the Right to Vote?”..
In one word: “Yes” (thereby assuming the “non-citizens” are all liberals)
Under ‘Che de Blasio’, anything like that is possible.
Wouldn’t that be something the entire state would have to agree upon?
It would end DeBlasio’s career.
His electorate would suddenly find him too conservative.
Why not let the Liberals nominate whom they want and forget about such arcane customs as “voting”? It will save a lot of money and effort and the end results will be the same as allowing non-citizens the vote.
> Blacks don’t appear to be walking anywhere.
Don’t be too sure about that. A lot of Black pastors were incensed at the analogies being made between the gay fascists and the struggle for Blacks to enjoy constitutional freedoms.
Sodomy is a behavior, and Black is an ancestry. This distinction is not lost on a lot of Black people.
It’s definitely not a majority of Black people, but it is a growing minority.
As for the Jews, Joe Biden told them they’re on their own, basically telling them that the demonRAT party has abandoned them. Again, it’s not a majority of Jews that will walk off the plantation, but it’s a growing minority.
The demonRATs are gonna need replacement voters.
If that number is in the low single digits, that would be heartening. The problem is that while a majority of white kids voted for Romney and McCain, there are too few of them. I am praying/hoping for a cliff effect, when white Democrats finally figure out what's happening, and move en masse to the GOP. If Republicans can get 70-80% of the white vote, the Dems are finished for the next decade.
This is enormous discontent among working-class taxpayers, both black and white. It's a gold mine for the GOP. Reagan understood that. Today's GOP leaders do not.
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