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Haven't seen this reported anywhere else. A couple of things. The Okinawans need to be reminded who won World War II. Next, they need to look very closely at the experiences of the Philippines and Puerto Rico, both of which demanded that the U.S. military leave, and then watched their local economies crash when that actually happened.
1 posted on 04/06/2015 4:10:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler
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Let's set aside 1945 and look at 2015. Okinawans should look at what is happening to the Japanese home islands, Taiwan, Vietnam, and the Republic of the Philippines. The PRC has steadily been pushing their highly uncertain claims to the entirety of all waters that touch their shoreline. The most outrageous of these acts has been to use concrete to build up several reefs that have become defacto Chines territory, with their accompanying territorial waters, fishing rights, and mineral rights.

The Chinese position seems to be that they own everything up to your shoreline.

2 posted on 04/06/2015 4:21:57 AM PDT by Pecos (What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
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The last time I was on Camp Schwab was more than 20 years ago so my info might be a bit out of date, however that picture showed a bunch of Okinawans protesting. Back when I was there, that was about how many people lived in the town outside. That was the whole town. Schwab is in the northern part of Okinawa which is bascially uninhabited. The airbase Futema is down south where all the Okinawans are. I don’t understand why they have a beef with moving Futema up north where no one lives. I would think they would like that.

You are correct about one thing, if the U.S. military (mostly Marines and one Air Force Base (Kadena)) moved out, that would be a huge hit to the economy.


3 posted on 04/06/2015 4:38:06 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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Interesting....

I wonder about Olongapo. I thought that the base structures were taken over by commercial developers and the runways became the base for Asian Fedex.

I looked on Google Earth and there was no trace of the vast POL tank field it was covered in green. I did locate our house though

I was a member of the Olongapo Jaycees and they did make their livings off the Navy but were pretty savvy business men


4 posted on 04/06/2015 4:40:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Pull the base and troops.
Vieques comes to mind.
After we left the area, unemployment there went up to silly levels.
Let em starve or worse yet, let the chi-coms have it.


5 posted on 04/06/2015 4:44:42 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Obammy is a lie, a mooselimb and pond scum.)
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The final amphibious landing of WWII occurred on Easter Day April 1, 1945. Two Marine and two Army divisions landed on Okinawa. The Navy suffered its greatest casualties for a single engagement, and more than 12,000 Americans were killed, 50,000 wounded. The island was finally secured on June 22, 1945.

I suppose that 81 year old “protester” who buys into “US is the source of all evil” crap pines for the good ol'’ days of his parents and grandparents and those before them living as Japanese vassals, considered a subhuman race by their imperial overlords. Or perhaps the Okinawans look forward to the vacuum a US withdrawal would create for a China whose stated goal is Pacific hegemony. Perhaps all Okinawan school children should be presented with a map of the Pacific showing all Chinese territorial claims and goals.

6 posted on 04/06/2015 5:26:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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Back in 1977 they were protesting the closing of a dirt farm trail so that the Marines could safely fire artillery on a practice range. 800 Okinawan police and 700 Japanese police were there to handle the demonstrations. I flew in a Japanese police Huey, filled with a police SWAT team, while I served as the USMC liaison.

The “student” protesters were trying to infiltrate the impact area. When we spotted one, the SWAT team rappelled down and captured him. We landed and as they threw him handcuffed into the Huey, my Japanese counterpart told me the prisoner was a 35 year old, well known Marxist political agitator.

The Marines eventually ended up loading the artillery battalion on ships and cruising to South Korea for artillery practice at a range 5 miles south of the DMZ. The Koreans had a much better appreciation of our presence!


7 posted on 04/06/2015 5:39:14 AM PDT by BwanaNdege
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The Japanese treated Okinawa very poorly during WWII. The battle for Okinawa was one of the bloodiest in WWII, and the locals (Okinawans) were generally dragged into it against their will. I think many mainland Japanese think Okinawa is a backward prefecture, and they treat it as such. I don’t blame the Okinawans for wanting to control their own island, but it’s been a pawn for other civilizations for a long, long time.


8 posted on 04/06/2015 5:40:06 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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