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1 posted on 03/25/2015 2:33:05 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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Islam already had a reformation and it yielded the Shia branch of Islam.


2 posted on 03/25/2015 2:34:12 PM PDT by MeganC (You can ignore reality, but reality won't ignore you.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Because everyone who disagrees with them must be murdered? That one there is enough for us.
Because islam is from the devil? That one there is for them.


4 posted on 03/25/2015 2:38:11 PM PDT by vpintheak (Call the left what they are - regressive control-freaks)
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Since Koran is from Allah itself, any “reformation” is heresy.


5 posted on 03/25/2015 2:38:23 PM PDT by sagar
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Islam is not capable of reformation.

The koran is written in such a way that they cannot remove one or two things without destroying the whole.


6 posted on 03/25/2015 2:38:45 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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Islam needs to go the way of the religions that inspired Greek and roman mythology.


7 posted on 03/25/2015 2:40:23 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (BUT MAK)
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To: LeoWindhorse

It needs an exorcism.


8 posted on 03/25/2015 2:41:28 PM PDT by Track9
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Observations from the Protestant Reformation.

The Reformation was not over the violent content of Catholicism. Even so, the passions stirred over issues of great consequence lead, at least in part, to wars lasting the better part of 2 centuries, and cultural friction to the present day, half a millennium later.

The violent faction of Islam is not going to recede from a fatwa, or series of fatwas. Even if an Islamic reformation were to occur (nothing on the horizon that I can see), look for things to get much, much, much more violent in the short to medium term, and for the whole thing to play out over centuries.


9 posted on 03/25/2015 2:41:42 PM PDT by RedElement
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A nuclear powered tune up is what Islam needs.


12 posted on 03/25/2015 2:44:59 PM PDT by Iron Munro
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Who is going to volunteer to lead the reformation? (Remember the old story, “Belling the Cat”?)


14 posted on 03/25/2015 2:47:18 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: LeoWindhorse

Not Reformation, Externation.


16 posted on 03/25/2015 2:49:18 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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If the pagan stone in Mecca fell over, Islam would have a heart attack.


17 posted on 03/25/2015 2:58:40 PM PDT by Fungi (Evolution: no science, no truth, no nothing. Full of faith, faith in the "god" of chance.)
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Reform has to come from within. Of course, utter destruction can and probably will eventually come from without. We're very unlikely to see reform from within when, hanging over every muslim's head, is the promise by the insane ones to murder in the most horrible way imaginable any muslim who attempts to reform the religion. Not to mention, his family, friends and associates will also very likely suffer greatly as a result of his apostasy (i.e., they will be murdered too, in many cases).

Oh, did I mention, they're all insane? Islam made them that way. After our descendants have lived under islam for a couple of generations (if we're foolish enough to allow such a thing), they'll all be insane, too.

20 posted on 03/25/2015 3:03:48 PM PDT by LibWhacker ("Every Muslim act of terror is follow by a political act of cover-up." -Daniel Greenfield)
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This is naive. You can’t reform a religion whose “holy” book & founding prophet explicitly call for the death of non-Muslims. Forced conversions, the prohibition of apostasy, and intentional discrimination of non-Muslims robs the individual of free will.

A good Christian is a person that faithfully practices the precepts of the Bible. A good Muslim is an oxymoron; the best we can expect from a Muslim is that he ignores his faith.


25 posted on 03/25/2015 3:14:52 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats & GOPe delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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Whole swaths of the koran need to be changed just to make it peaceful. Even IF muslims were living on the planet Mars, the hatred for non-muslims will never change because of the koranic leanings.


26 posted on 03/25/2015 3:17:06 PM PDT by SIRTRIS
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If annihilation is reformation, then OK


27 posted on 03/25/2015 3:18:13 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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“reformed” mohammedanism is still mohammedanism. It’s still a bogus religion based on the demonic ravings of a mad, murderous pedophile.


32 posted on 03/25/2015 3:29:02 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To defeat the extremists for good, Muslims must reject those aspects of their tradition that prompt some believers to resort to oppression and holy war

Reformation? That would be abandonment. Islam is opression and jihad, that is its whole point of being.. Stop covering. There are no extremeists. Only those that actually follow Islam and those that say they do but do not...........


35 posted on 03/25/2015 3:31:44 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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I've never read about any other religion whose holy book demands nonbelievers either be converted or face virtual slavery or death. What other religion says people who leave their religion must be killed? And it treats females like sexual slaves.

There has never been a religion with as inherently, evil dictates as Islam. It is the religion of the stupidest and most violent males on earth. Obviously, there are millions of Muslims who aren't violent or stupid. But they're ruled by those who are.

36 posted on 03/25/2015 3:36:22 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To defeat the extremists for good, Muslims must reject those aspects of their tradition that prompt some believers to resort to oppression and holy war

Reformation? That would be abandonment. Islam is opression and jihad, that is its whole point of being.. Stop covering. There are no extremeists. Only those that actually follow Islam and those that say they do but do not...........


37 posted on 03/25/2015 3:37:47 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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I would argue that both reformation and revolution incorrectly describe what is underway. A better descriptive term is reversion.

Islam has evolved to suit the hundreds of millions in the non Arab countries and to a lesser extent in Arab countries. The modern Islam is not nearly so demanding or harsh as it was. Prayer time for instance is not so rigidly observed or enforced. Few radical terrorists come from say Indonesia or Malaysia or Bangladesh.

The various radical fundamentalist are not reformers but religious ultra conservatives insisting in rolling back the current Islam to some idealistic past.

The Islamic radical movement is the exact opposite to the Christian reformation where the revolution was against or opposed to the Roman Catholic Church that so many bad things going for it that great masses of various populations just left.

The commonality is that both the Christian Reformation and the Islamic reversion will take many many years, It is not going to be over quick

Sisi speaks for the hundreds of millions against the hundreds of thousands


39 posted on 03/25/2015 3:42:28 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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