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Ted Cruz, the presidential candidate who wants to increase the H-1B cap by 500%
Computerworld ^ | Mar 23, 2015 | Patrick Thibodeau

Posted on 03/25/2015 10:01:45 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom

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To: ConservingFreedom

Must be good, then


21 posted on 03/25/2015 10:20:44 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: LegendHasIt

The only good thing I can say about this is, if we stop the illegal entry of uneducated, unskilled people that are only here to take advantage of all the “free” welfare benefits and instead import only skilled workers that will work and not be getting billions in fraudulent income tax returns, it’s a start.

Any employer wanting to hire them should have to prove that they are unable to find a qualified citizen to fill the position first.


22 posted on 03/25/2015 10:23:17 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: ConservingFreedom; All
For the love of God, do the honor to America, your brain, and Ted Cruz, to actually click on the link and LISTEN to what Cruz says in the video at the linked site!

He wouldn't be arguing for such a seemingly "no-brainer negative" thing unless it wasn't as big of a no-brainer as convention has it, and as usual, conventional thinking has it wrong, and Cruz has it right.

WATCH THE FRIKKIN' VIDEO AND LISTEN.

23 posted on 03/25/2015 10:23:18 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: glorgau
the proposal was all part of the convoluted internal politics of the senate and was known to be never passable.

Exactly.
(BTW notice the "moderate" FReepers oozing back in for the primaries?)
24 posted on 03/25/2015 10:26:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Perseverando
Who can you trust? I hope Ted has a good explanation!

For crying out loud, you can get his "good explanation" right now if you go to the link and click on the 9-minute video at the site!

Yes, he has a good explanation.

25 posted on 03/25/2015 10:26:26 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: ConservingFreedom

I posted on the other thread. Please don’t take a progressive websites word about a bill that has long been dead. It’s propaganda plain and simple!


26 posted on 03/25/2015 10:32:43 AM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: Reno89519
Regardless of the reasons and detail that Cruz is tied to this, he needs to come clean on his view of H1B. I’d be happiest if he said this was not his position, that it evolved, etc., that’d be fine. Especially if he said that so long as there is an American looking for a job, no employer should be allowed to import foreign workers.

That last qualifier is just like a little kid wanting a pony, in nearly every way.

WATCH THE VIDEO AT THE LINK to see Cruz "come clean." It makes sense. Another approach, of course, is to assume that all business owners are dirty no-good bastards who cannot be trusted because they'll throw America to the ash heap in search of cheap labor. THAT sounds like a leftist to me, but it is the knee-jerk attitude of many Republicans who resent every immigrant who has a job in the U.S.

I’d be happiest if he said this was not his position, that it evolved, etc., that’d be fine...

I'd be happiest (my pony) if he said, "Minimum wage laws and cumbersome government regulation make it a losing proposition for American companies to hire teenagers and low-skilled people, a vast resource of American workers, so those jobs primarily go to illegal immigrants in whose nations our minimum wage is a substantial income. Government welfare like food stamps, subsidized housing, free education and medical care, given to illegal immigrants make the problem worse. Get rid of minimum wage laws, and watch a large percentage of the illegal immigration problem melt away."

That's what I'd like for Ted Cruz to say!

27 posted on 03/25/2015 10:37:42 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: cripplecreek

They seem to be pleased with his position. I have not considered Computerworld a political publication, but I have not subscribed for a number of years, so perhaps they have changed their emphasis.


28 posted on 03/25/2015 10:38:47 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Perseverando

Who can you trust? I hope Ted has a good explanation!


From the article, it would appear that He is under the impression that expanding H-1B visas will create more jobs. Yes, more jobs aggregate, but they will be lower-paying and go to foreign workers—not the new grads and displaced tech workers. Good for Google, but not US tech workers...

I could see how the “business development” visas (they are H-5 or something like that) could create jobs, but I really fail to see how H-1B visas benefit US citizen workers.


29 posted on 03/25/2015 10:42:18 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Reno89519

Regardless of the reasons and detail that Cruz is tied to this, he needs to come clean on his view of H1B. I’d be happiest if he said this was not his position, that it evolved, etc., that’d be fine. Especially if he said that so long as there is an American looking for a job, no employer should be allowed to import foreign workers. For most of IT, there is truly no shortage of qualified or easily trained workers. They just come at foreign worker rates.


You summed it up beautifully!


30 posted on 03/25/2015 10:44:01 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: LegendHasIt

Given the choice as to whether we bring in relatively well-educated and skilled people, as opposed to near-illiterates (in their own language, even!) whose English skills are minimal at best, and largely unskilled in much other than manual labor, I would opt for the skilled, as they shall supplement our labor force in a much underserved segment, and they have great promise of being useful and not become a burden on the economy, demanding services greatly in excess of their contributions.


31 posted on 03/25/2015 10:46:32 AM PDT by alloysteel (It isn't science, it's law. Rational thought does not apply.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I see what you are saying, except that a whistleblower from Infosys claimed they are not highly talented....and US workers are training them as the replacements....

http://townhall.com/columnists/byronyork/2015/03/24/as-tech-giant-calls-for-more-foreign-workers-senate-hears-of-displaced-americans-n1975180?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=

Not sure our economy can stand the turnaround time that the jobs you claim would be generated from new startups, etc. People are hurting now—legal immigration needs to be carefully controlled—not just catered to the needs of big Tech business and the Chamber of Commerce.


32 posted on 03/25/2015 10:49:05 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Oldhunk
There is only one explanation. Cruz is bought and paid for by the big business cronies who want the cheap foreign labor. The sad fact is that virtually every one of the potential Republican candidates are running to the left of where Romney was immigration.

There is another explanation: YOU DIDN'T WATCH THE VIDEO AT THE SITE. This not "cheap foreign labor" he's talking about. HE's talking about skilled science, technology, engineering, and mathematics workers. Now, for every 1.9 job openings, there's only one American qualified to fill it. America has shortage of those kinds of workers. And HELLO, have you looked at today's college grads? They're badly educated!!!

Really, America has regulated its marketplace such that American youths, teens, kid, young adults, and low-skilled folks, are prevented from apprenticing into companies that need them, and companies are hammered and punished and fined for employing them at their market value. Teenagers have zero opportunity to learn a business ethic -- that you get paid more the more valuable you become. I really do think that a huge proportion of Americans illegal immigrant-employment problem, is linked to onerous minimum wage and employment regulation and restrictions.

"bought and paid for by the big business cronies ..."

Man.

33 posted on 03/25/2015 10:50:45 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Rusty0604
"Any employer wanting to hire them should have to prove that they are unable to find a qualified citizen to fill the position first."

Agreed.

34 posted on 03/25/2015 10:53:31 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Blennos

We’ve got to stop insisting upon a perfect conservative candidate. We’ve got to stop letting the news media manipulate us in this regard. Every man will have some flaws. But I don’t think we will find anybody as good as Cruz.


I don’t think anyone is insisting on a perfect candidate. This is not the news media—he sponsored an amendment to increase H-1B visas by 500%. That is a major flaw to some and it warrants investigation and discussion—this is the time for that exercise.

BTW, you may very well be right, and I am not saying it is a make-or-break issue, but for me personally, this is a big deal and I would like clarification. I went to his website and saw no place to ask questions and no one answered the phones, so I am asking here.


35 posted on 03/25/2015 10:54:27 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: glorgau

That is interesting and potentially good news. Do you have any of the sources of your investigation?


36 posted on 03/25/2015 10:57:04 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Theo

I did read it, not pleased. It is from last year, and I am hoping he has evolved on issue.


37 posted on 03/25/2015 10:59:06 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Finny
Now, for every 1.9 job openings, there's only one American qualified to fill it.

Bunk - only 1 in 2 STEM graduates gets a job in the STEM area.

38 posted on 03/25/2015 10:59:20 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: reasonisfaith

What do you mean “you people”????


39 posted on 03/25/2015 10:59:32 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Tens of millions of U. S. Citizens either unable to find work, or having given up, it sure is enlightening to see a man that thinks we need more foreign workers to displace even more U. S. Citizens.

If this is his view, it seems as if we’ve found another political figure on crack.


40 posted on 03/25/2015 11:03:42 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question is Jeb Bush. The answer is NO!)
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