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Ted Cruz Is Signing Up for Obamacare
Time ^ | 3/24/2015 | Jack Linshi

Posted on 03/24/2015 3:43:41 PM PDT by Kevin C

Despite being vehemently opposed to Obamacare, Ted Cruz is signing up for insurance under President Obama’s health care law.

The Texas Republican Senator and newly-announced presidential candidate, known for his staunch opposition to the Affordable Care Act, told CNN on Tuesday that he will be joining the millions of Americans enrolled in insurance under the law.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cruz; cruz2016; cruzobamacare; obamacare
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To: C. Edmund Wright

OK but where does that leave the rest of us who loathe and despise Obamacare and have absolutely no intention of acquiescing to it, IRS penalties notwithstanding?

Where does that leave the effort for states to reject and nullify Obmamcare and other unconstitutional federal acts?

It’s hard to imagine acquiescing to Obamacare and then denouncing those (in Congress, but by extension everyone else) who haven’t helps the cause of rejecting and nullifying unconstitutional and invalid federal laws.


101 posted on 03/24/2015 5:19:26 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew

I’m sorry - if you can’t understand what he’s doing - he’s making a political statement - then you will never be happy about it. You disappoint me.

Have a nice life.


102 posted on 03/24/2015 5:20:34 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: a fool in paradise

Cool, now he can regularly report on how horrible it is!


103 posted on 03/24/2015 5:22:35 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: C. Edmund Wright

No, I understand the political statement he’s making and maybe that’s what he should do I don’t know.

But I don’t like how that political statement leaves the rest of us. So it was a sincere question: where does that leave the rest of us who loathe and despise Obamacare and have absolutely no intention of acquiescing to it, IRS penalties notwithstanding?


104 posted on 03/24/2015 5:24:27 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew

I’ll type very slowly.

He was not saying YOU should sign up. Are you off your meds? Political statements are political statements....not instructions to you....hell, he tried to get the law repealed, tried to get the law defunded....he’s fighting to give you the options you want, and all you can do is carp about his tactics? Wow, just wow wow wow.


105 posted on 03/24/2015 5:26:37 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Nailbiter; BartMan1

ping


106 posted on 03/24/2015 5:28:08 PM PDT by IncPen (None of this would be happening if John Boehner were alive...)
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To: PapaNew

Of course it will take more than one politician. Why do you think he’s talking about amassing an army of conservatives?

Let’s face it. The power grab at the federal level is well known by politicians. The governors and legislatures are more than aware of it, so is Congress, so are the courts. Yet for the most part they’ve done nothing about it. So who will?

A lot of folks, including Ted Cruz, are drawing parallels between him and Ronaldus Magnus. And there are. But I think they’re looking too much at the 1980 race and not the 1976 race, the aftermath of which saw some very interesting chamges in how politics at the grassroots level was pursued.


107 posted on 03/24/2015 5:33:07 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: xzins

You’re basically correct. There are some exceptions, such as for those who are part of a medical sharing ministry, those who have a hardship, etc. but by and large your choice is get a policy or pay a fine.

Ted Cruz is a brilliant lawyer and he has smart people,working for him. If he wanted to avoid deathcare, he could. He obviously doesn’t want to. Thus he most likely has a card or two up his sleeve that he wants to reserve for future play.


108 posted on 03/24/2015 5:37:43 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It’s OK to carp about tactics. You don’t have to get cancer to show its a disease. And you don’t have to sign up for an unconstitutional act to show its unconstitutional.

If you can get over your astonishment that somebody can be be for somebody can still question his tactics, maybe we can talk intelligently. If not, maybe another time.


109 posted on 03/24/2015 5:39:37 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I hope so.

Do you think Cruz would at some point call for states to nullify unconstitutional federal acts?


110 posted on 03/24/2015 5:40:54 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Heidi’s coverage for all four of them, in NYC probably, doesn’t have any networks in Houston for the Cruz’ to utilize, so no COBRA. This will help Ted with his argument for across-state-lines underwriting proposal.


111 posted on 03/24/2015 5:42:00 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Leep

“Might work but then were dealing with folk who are not interested in the truth.”

He’s not aiming for them ... he’s aiming for the moderates and undecided.

I agree with a few posters on this thread ... this was a brilliant move :-). It should pay off later. It keeps him in the news now.

He has to make a joke out of the lunatic left. This is a great first step. People will listen to his first hand experience with this farce of a law. Get enough to agree and the message will resonate w/o any dependence on the media.

I *really* hope he finds a way to drive home the point that the far left are the genuine “extremists” in this country. That’ll be another thing that drives them bonkers. They know they’re the revolutionaries that act like innocents ... once he starts to shine the light on those morons, they’ll become the stark raving mad moonbats in public more often than not.


112 posted on 03/24/2015 5:43:26 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: PapaNew

“OK and where does that leave the rest of us who loathe and despise Obamacare and have absolutely no intention of acquiescing to it, IRS penalties notwithstanding?”

That leaves you with the medical sharing ministries or obtaining a waiver. There are also those who have pointed out that the law does not allow the IRS to take collection action if you don’t pay the fine. All they can do is apply it against any refund you would have otherwise gotten. Personally I think the medical sharing ministries are the best option, but your results may vary.


113 posted on 03/24/2015 5:43:43 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Ted Cruz 2016)
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To: PapaNew

I stumble on that “talk intelligently” part. I’m not conceding that you are doing that. I’ve no problem that you question his tactics, but you kept going back to “so what am I supposed to do?”

That’s an entirely different subject. And yet.....


114 posted on 03/24/2015 5:44:39 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: RKBA Democrat

I’m hoping he does have some kind of ace in the hole. Beyond that, maybe none of the exceptions apply, and he doesn’t want a legal charge leveled at him.


115 posted on 03/24/2015 5:45:13 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It -- Those Who Truly Support Our Troops Pray for Their Victory!)
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To: madison10
What choice did they have? She quit her job most likely to avoid conflict of interest and now they don’t have the money for health insurance.

Well, aside from his $174,000 a year stipend as a United States Senator you mean?

116 posted on 03/24/2015 5:46:36 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“On the other hand, the law does LET him be exempted, so there has to be some other point.”

The law specifically requires members of Congress to buy insurance from the exchanges. It does not exempt them from doing so.


117 posted on 03/24/2015 5:49:54 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Kevin C

New strategy, any time a lib says anything bad about Cruz... simply accuse them of racism! (make them see how it feels after doing it to us over Obama)


118 posted on 03/24/2015 5:50:58 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Why would he not use his health insurance?


119 posted on 03/24/2015 5:51:14 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is no such thing as an “Obamacare doctor.” Where are you getting this nonsense?


120 posted on 03/24/2015 5:52:01 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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