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Ted Cruz calls for liquidating the IRS in New Hampshire
American Thinker ^ | March 16, 2015 | Pedro Gonzales

Posted on 03/20/2015 8:53:56 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Ted Cruz came to New Hampshire, but unlike other candidates who talked in Bushian generalities, he talked about his positions on the issues.

He won applause when he called for a flat tax and abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and he said the Affordable Care Act and Common Core curriculum standards should be repealed.

He also said he wanted taxes simple enough so they could be done on a postcard.  Do you hear other candidates talking this way?  I don't.  I don't think I've heard a single candidate call for abolishing the IRS, have you?

Senator Cruz has spoken at length about these issues in the past, and unlike other candidates, whose views have "evolved," "grown," or "mutated" right before running for president, Cruz has actually held these positions for greater than two years, even before he considered running for president.

With regard to the ethanol mandate, which makes both gasoline and food much more expensive, Cruz says he is flatly against it.  When asked about Scott Walker's view, which is that Walker is

(a) for it in Iowa,

(b) against it in Wisconsin,

(c) and unclear on his views for ethanol in the other 48 states,

Cruz refused to attack his rival.

Cruz also said he didn't want any limits on campaign donations.  The current system already has so many holes in it – for example, manpower donations by unions aren't counted as "donations," and slanted coverage by the liberal media is also not counted as donations – that it makes sense to allow everyone to get as involved as he or she wishes.  The wealthy can already spend a lot to push their agenda with indirect spending to PACs; we might as well open up the system entirely, have full disclosure of donations,

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 114th; 2016election; cruz; election2016; newhampshire; tedcruz; texas
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To: servantboy777
It just floors me that folks think Cruz is TOO radical, TOO conservative. ... The only downside to Cruz running for president, is it will leave open a Senate seat.

Amen, Bro FReeper.

The GOP is locked into playing defense, hitting back at those Democrats! All reactive to Democrats! And here's Cruz, whose basic mantra is "remove branches of government tyranny." His whole approach is offense, removal of excess government and amoral tyranny. He's consistent, and Constitutional.

He's saying what millions of Americans have been waiting to hear. Kinda too bad he has to risk all as a Republican, and all bets are off if the party fails to nominate him. The party image is a bad joke, stuck on "Coke" to the Democrats' "Pepsi" brand of government, and people are disgusted with the game.

Cruz is going on offense, taking back territory, and I will vote for offense.

61 posted on 03/20/2015 5:42:09 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny
Just remember this...after Jimmy Carter's miserable four years in office, Ronald Reagan swept the nation during the election. Think he lost one state.

This could quite possibly be a historic election.

Think about it...the last election, the country moved right. Won the majority in the U.S. senate, more seats in the U.S. house, won majority governorships, statehouses.

The country solidly moved right. Could this be a signal of what to expect during the 2016 election?

Perhaps.

62 posted on 03/20/2015 6:40:20 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: SoConPubbie
Ted Cruz gets it.

Abolishing the IRS would be one of the most significant and positive government reforms in the last century.

The Liberty-crushing "progressive income tax" is a Marxist abomination, a central plank of the Communist Manifesto.

We need bold leadership, not the status quo.

I like a lot of what Cruz has to say.

Can you imagine someone like Jeb Bush advocating abolishing the IRS? Maybe I'm wrong, but somehow I think Jeb's reforms would invariably be more "moderate".

63 posted on 03/20/2015 8:04:55 PM PDT by sargon
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To: BlackAdderess

Flat tax hadn’t worked in PA, and you think that’s an analogy to the entire country? Maybe the flat tax hasn’t worked in PA because IT IS NOT THE IRS CODE and the IRS CODE DOMINATES ALL TAXATION.


64 posted on 03/22/2015 4:06:06 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Actually no, the whole country would be worse.


65 posted on 03/22/2015 4:59:36 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Are you the same guy with the HOA’s?


66 posted on 03/22/2015 5:00:24 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: nikos1121
My pet issue is the abolishment of government schooling.....but....the IRS is next in line.

Honestly,...how pennies does it cost to collect $1 of tax? The percentage must be enormous. There is an literal army of IRS agents, whole department of employees in private business, and the cost and lost time to the individual citizen just to process the paperwork.

Any system that would reduce the number of pennies per dollar collected would be better. Completely abolishing the IRS would be best. A point of sale tax would likely be the least expensive.

67 posted on 03/22/2015 5:06:33 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: nascarnation

Indeed, you are right. There is a tax-industrial complex just as there is an education-industrial complex and a military-industrial complex.


68 posted on 03/22/2015 5:08:02 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: BlackAdderess

If you are an IRS status quo supporter, you need to leave this forum. That thinking is not part of a “free republic.”

But setting the idea of a national flat tax aside for a second, whether or not it would be good or bad is not relevant to your comment about what it did in Pa. The best part of a flat tax is the simplification of the national tax code and the demolition of the IRS. Thus, no single state experiment has anything to do with what the impact would be nationally. Your analogy was a fail, period.

But I would like to hear why you think a flat tax would be bad. I can’t WAIT to hear your little thinking on this.


69 posted on 03/22/2015 5:26:56 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: BlackAdderess

My only point on HOAs is that there are good ones and bad ones - that they serve a purpose but are often abused and often run by little folks with a power and control complex. I also said that they are neither good nor bad necessarily, that it’s case by case. And most importantly, there are plenty of houses to buy IN and NOT IN HOA neighborhoods. It’s called the freedom to live in one because you think it will protect your property values, or to not live in one because you don’t want neighbors being busy bodies.

Both points are valid. It’s called freedom, like I said.


70 posted on 03/22/2015 5:29:27 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: SoConPubbie

I’m a supporter of the flat tax. Each citizen should pay the same amount of tax per year.


71 posted on 03/22/2015 5:30:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Ted, propose go back to our founding and REPLACE income taxes with sales taxes and tariffs. Quote Washington nobody will say a word against you.


72 posted on 03/22/2015 5:37:39 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I don’t believe you are in a position to be telling other people to leave the forum.


73 posted on 03/22/2015 6:01:39 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

OK, I remember you, lots of projection and bile.


74 posted on 03/22/2015 6:03:48 PM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: spodefly

Somebody still has to collect the flat tax. Just saying ...


75 posted on 03/22/2015 6:18:30 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: BlackAdderess

I am sorry your reading comprehension is so poor. I didn’t tell you to leave the forum. I said people who believe the IRS as status quo is a good idea will not be welcome on this forum.


76 posted on 03/22/2015 6:26:58 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: BlackAdderess

You lie. Prove it or STFU.


77 posted on 03/22/2015 6:27:21 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: SoConPubbie

I like Cruz’s approach on the IRS but I think going after the Dept of Education would be a bridge too far. I think it would frighten women voters
And feed into stereotypes. Better to leave that task for the second term. :)


78 posted on 03/22/2015 7:14:34 PM PDT by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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To: wintertime

I absoultely hate taxes and the filing of taxes and the paying for the filing. I think when you look at what the gov’t pays these IRS thieves...plus what we pay to CPAs, I bet that the gov’t is getting probably less than 50cents on our tax dollars the rest going to others, plus the waste once the get that.

Dessolve the IRS... get a flat tax... or user tax...


79 posted on 03/23/2015 8:27:05 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

Well, Senator Cruz speaks of a “flat tax” when he speaks to “liquidating” the IRS.

I sincerely hope he gets his facts and figures straight, because, the “flat tax” cannot and will not “liquidate” the IRS!

If anything, the “flat tax” will make the IRS even MORE abusive of our civil liberties and even more intrusive into our most private economic affairs.

Having said all that, Senator Cruz became a co-sponsor of S. 155, the FairTax act of 2015 on Mar 10, 2015.

I sincerely hope that when Senator Cruz speaks of the “flat tax” he is really referring to the FairTax, which as you folks all know, is a FLAT RATE National Retail Sales Tax. Please see http://www.fairtax.org to obtain more information about the FairTax.

Senator Cruz will now have to speak of the FairTax in a learned and erudite manner, and he MUST get the FAirTax message out to ALL Americans if he is to be successful.

I sure do hope that he has hired some forward thinking economic advisors who believe in the FairTax and can keep him appraised of and sell the message that all Americans will benefit when FairTax becomes law of the land!


80 posted on 03/24/2015 6:40:38 AM PDT by Taxman (I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!)
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