Ted Cruz calls for liquidating the IRS in New Hampshire

American Thinker ^ | March 16, 2015 | Pedro Gonzales

[xzins]

A flat tax would not be part of an effort to get rid of the IRS. They would be separate actions.

Would the nation still need an accounting and collections arm? Yes.

But getting rid of the IRS and rewriting the new accounting/collection bureau would kill billions of pages of legalese, change the dynamic of IRS abuse, and get those trained in a culture of self-serving abuse out of government and out of our lives.

[Taxman]

Some years ago, I read a report (and, I’m sorry I cannot reference it) that claimed that it cost the US economy as much as $1.00 in direct and indirect costs to raise $1.00 in revenue.

RayChuang88, in post 52 quantifies a bit of that, and, if anything, I’d guess the $1.9 Trillion he refers to is only a conservative estimate. Tax Foundation is not known for WAGs!

Not to mention “What is your nice Spring Holiday every April 15 worth to your mental health?”

I have long proposed that when FairTax becomes law of the land that April 15 become a national holiday!

“NATIONAL TAX FREEDOM DAY!”

Because this issue really is about FReedom!

[hlmencken3]

Raising revenue is not exactly even necessary. The Feds have the equivalent of a printing press for all the money they want. Taxes are collected as a kind of wealth redistribution, and as a kind of public relations campaign to reassure about the value of the dollar. By those measures, spending more than a dollar to get a dollar does make sense.

[SoConPubbie]

Before you comment on this issue, please educate yourself completely on what Senator Cruz position is on this issue.

If you'll watch a rerun of the Hannity show from last night you will find out that he actually stated that his first choice is the Fairtax, but that there was too much opposition to that type of sales tax right now so he was going to support the flat tax first, and a good middle of the road solution. He is not against the flat tax, he is for both, whichever would make it to his POTUS desk for his signature.

[SoConPubbie]

Well, Senator Cruz speaks of a “flat tax” when he speaks to “liquidating” the IRS.

I sincerely hope he gets his facts and figures straight, because, the “flat tax” cannot and will not “liquidate” the IRS!

Before you comment on this issue, please educate yourself completely on what Senator Cruz position is on this issue.

If you'll watch a rerun of the Hannity show from last night you will find out that he actually stated that his first choice is the Fairtax, but that there was too much opposition to that type of sales tax right now so he was going to support the flat tax first, and a good middle of the road solution. He is not against the flat tax, he is for both, whichever would make it to his POTUS desk for his signature.

[OKSooner]

If you don't add me to the ping list I'm gonna turn you in to...

Oh wait, that's that other ping list.

Please add me to yours too, thanks.

[OKSooner]

Go for it, Ted, you've got my vote.

Tell them all to go get real jobs.

[SoConPubbie]

If you don't add me to the ping list I'm gonna turn you in to...
Oh wait, that's that other ping list.

Ha!

Maybe I should start a similar custom as well!

You've been added to the Ted Cruz Ping List!

[skinkinthegrass]

*YAY!*
and don't forget the
other abuses of power.

[wintertime]

Simply reducing the cost to collect the tax would a “tax cut” and should be figured into the savings it will bring to every American who reports to the IRS.

[Taxman]

My point is that Senator Cruz must at all times be consistent with his comments and MUST NOT conflate the FairTax with the flat tax.

If you have any direct clout at all with him, please, please advise him to get a full and complete brief and commit to memory ALL of the FairTax talking points.

He also should hire a respected Ph.D. economist who supports the FairTax and has extensive experience in developing cogent FairTax arguments.

There are some VERY POWERFUL persons and groups opposed to the FairTax; primarily because they know full well that replacing the income tax with the FairTax and abolishing the IRS will end their ongoing and VERY lucrative gravy train!

[Taxman]

WEll, I don’t watch Hannity. I read the article, and based my comment on it.

HST, I do not wish to get into a pissing contest with you.

If Senator Cruz wants to “morph” FRom a flat tax to the FairTax, I’d be OK with that.

But, I think he should keep beating the FairTax drum. If he becomes really knowledgeable about FairTax, he could sell it to the voters as a FReedom issue and as a super economic and jobs growth issue.

And that is the point of my last post — Senator Cruz has got to get his FairTax ducks in a row, and keep on promoting it.

[Taxman]

Good point!

FRom https://fairtax.org/faq: “It is estimated that the FairTax dramatically cuts such compliance costs, perhaps as much as 95 percent.”

[Taxman]

I tried to find the Hannity/Cruz interview on the internet; unable to do so.

Any idea where I could find a video of the entire show?

Thanks in advance.