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To: entropy12

This is 2015, not 1955. Mass deportation of all illegals is untenable politically, which I’m sure everyone here, you included, knows. Beating up on any candidate or government official because they won’t do something which is culturally and politically impossible is futile. Do you and I wish it were possible? Of course. Is it under current conditions? No. After the revolution/civil war? Possible. LOL


22 posted on 03/18/2015 10:01:53 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mass deportation is a straw man. Real enforcement will encourage many to return the same way they got here.


37 posted on 03/18/2015 10:14:32 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I know that is conventional wisdom, but if you consider the huge amount of money illegal immigrants are costing us, perhaps shutting down all the goodies would do part of the work for us.


43 posted on 03/18/2015 10:16:39 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is 2015, not 1955. Mass deportation of all illegals is untenable politically, which I’m sure everyone here, you included, knows.

Creating conditions that induce self-deportation is well within our means.

48 posted on 03/18/2015 10:20:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mass deportation of all illegals is untenable politically,

The illegals will repatriate themselves once they learn that the laws are going to be enforced. The got here on their own and they will go home on the home. The only "path" should be to the Greyhound bus stop.

Walker is a phony, next.

69 posted on 03/18/2015 10:27:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is it not politically tenable to deport ALL illegals?
Polls I have seen, indicate that majority of citizens favor deportation.

Let’s be honest and admit that ALL GOP candidates are against mass deportation because their financiers are against it. And the democraps represent the illegals which is why they are against deportation.

What’s next? Amnesty to bank robbers because their mothers needed a surgery, or needed food for their family?

What it boils down to is, ALL GOP candidates are for amnesty in some form, no exceptions. Only minor differences in details.


133 posted on 03/18/2015 11:23:43 AM PDT by entropy12 (Real function of economists is to make astrologers look respectable.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have given this great thought.

If mass deportation were tried, a few things will happen:

1. It WILL be compared to the internment of the Japanese during WWII. Media coverage of this will ensure that this happens.
2. It WILL be challenged in court, all the way to the SCOTUS, thus delaying any mass deportation for years or decades. And, we do not know how this will end.
3. There will be massive unrest, protests, ect should any mass deportation be announced.

The only way we can stop this situation is a multifold approach.
1. Secure the border. This means fences, troops, unmanned systems, the whole nine yards.
2. Deport anyone who has committed an offense. This includes those with DUI’s or multiple misdemeanors.
3. Allow those here to stay ho are clean, up to 2 years before this bill passes. But they can not vote, collect welfare or income tax returns, or be hired to any position that an American could do. Yellow cards will be issued and there will be a 20 year wait period before they can apply for a green card. Yellow card holders are also ineligible for drivers licenses, however they can take public transport and come and go. These illegals will also have the option to return home and apply there. Any violation of these rules results in immediate deportation.
Note: Yellow cards will be photo ID’s, but easily distinguishable so they can’t be used to vote.
4. H1B visa reform. Massive fines or imprisonment for abuse of H1B, as seen with Edison in CA. Massive reduction in allowed H1B’s.
5. Only children who has at least one parent with citizenship, or both parents with resident alien status, would be eligible for natural born citizen status. A child of a yellow card holder will have to wait the remaining time of the parent’s yellow card time to get a green card. A child born to a new illegal will be deported with the family and be ineligible for citizenship.
6. No chain migration. Any yellow card or resident alien harboring a newly illegal alien will be deported. Citizens will be subject to a federal felony.
7. Full enforcement of e-verify. If someone knowingly hires anyone without status, they will face asset forfeiture, fines and imprisonment.
8. Any company that hires a yellow card holder will be required to pay into a fund to pay for emergency medical care of yellow card holders. Yellow card holders will also pay into this fund via tax withholdings. These employers will also be required to pay normal payroll taxes for these aliens.
9. Tax any foreign money transfer 10% from yellow card holders.
10. Yellow card holders will be restricted to agricultural, simple construction and certain hospitality trades. They will also be required to undergo a medical exam as part of their processing.
11. Any new illegal, or those who arrived two years before this bill passed, will be subject to immediate deportation.

Note. This can not be done in the current environment without massive welfare reform, election reform, and a cultural shift from multiculturalism to a melting pot philosophy. So those items will have to be tackled at the same time.
Also, hopefully, many if not most of the illegals will self deport when they see how tough it will become. Also, healthcare of any new illegals should be billed to the home government.


184 posted on 03/18/2015 10:55:49 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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