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Top State Dept. officials’ work emails not automatically archived before February (HRC lied)
POLITICO ^ | March 13, 2015 | JOSH GERSTEIN

Posted on 03/13/2015 12:14:44 PM PDT by maggief

Hillary Clinton’s explanation for her use of a personal email account while she served as secretary of state suffered another blow Friday as the State Department disclosed that the email accounts of senior department officials were not automatically archived until last month.

Clinton said at a news conference Tuesday that she believed the vast majority of work-related emails she sent or received from her private account were “preserved” because she was in correspondence with other officials using “.gov” accounts.

However, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters archiving of the work email boxes of senior State Department officials besides the secretary did not begin until “February of this year.” She previously said Secretary of State John Kerry uses an official account and his emails have been archived since he succeeded Clinton.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: benghazi; hillaryemailgate; hillaryemails; libya; miraclewhip; southcarolina; statedeptemails; treygowdy
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To: Mygirlsmom

The irony is they will be Clinton-ing the Clintons!..............


21 posted on 03/13/2015 1:31:24 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: don-o

I don’t think 0bama would ever attack Hillary. That would be mutually assured destruction. I’m sure she has plenty on him after being his Sec State.


22 posted on 03/13/2015 1:48:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: maggief

FYI state department regs/manual

http://www.state.gov/m/a/dir/regs/fam/


23 posted on 03/13/2015 1:49:18 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: rolling_stone
3 FAM 1412 RESPONSIBILITY 3 FAM 1412.1 Secretary of State (CT:PER-674; 04-27-2012) Recommendations for Presidential nominations and appointments under the jurisdiction of the Department of State are made by memorandum from the Secretary of State to the President. These recommendations for nominations and appointments include not only ambassadors and principal officers of the Department, but also top-level positions in the United Nations, the international American system, and other international commissions, organizations, and conferences where a request for a U.S. Presidential appointment is required.
24 posted on 03/13/2015 1:52:58 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: maggief

I believe I read a post on here a while back about the wife of the former leader of Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood) saying something about having the goods on Hillary? OK...what about all the emails she sent during the Muslim spring take over of the middle east? Those were sent to other countries so NO our government would NOT have ever had a copy of any of those correspondence....how convenient!


25 posted on 03/13/2015 1:56:58 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: rolling_stone
MS. MORALES: How would you, Secretary – I’m sorry. Go ahead. What do you use? Are you a Blackberry -- SECRETARY CLINTON: I’m a Blackberry. Yes. I’m a Blackberry person. And also, because of the constant need to get information out of something as large as the State Department, we do Twitter in many different languages; we have sites and are on Facebook for many of our different projects. So one of my goals when I became Secretary was to expand the definition of diplomacy, so it’s not just what I did today meeting with the foreign secretary and defense secretary and the President and members of his cabinet. It’s a much broader outreach, like what we’re doing here today.
26 posted on 03/13/2015 2:16:30 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: maggief

FYI Inspector General 2007 report on cell phones

oig.state.gov/reports/8060


27 posted on 03/13/2015 2:21:12 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: don-o
Oh, on that...

U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 5 Handbook 4 Records Management Handbook

(4) Ensuring that departing officials receive a m andatory briefing and that all departing officials will execute a Form SF-312, Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement certifying that they have not have not have not retained in their possession classified or administratively-controlled documents.

The other is the wrong one apparently.

This is the new form...STANDARD FORM 312 (Rev. 7-2013)
7. I understand that all classified information to which I have access or may obtain access by signing this Agreement is now and will remain the property of, or under the control of the United States Government unless and until otherwise determined by an authorized official or final ruling of a court of law. I agree that I shall return all classified materials which have, or may come into my possession or for which I am responsible because of such access: (a) upon demand by an authorized representative of the United States Government; (b) upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship with the Department or Agency that last granted me a security clearance or that provided me access to classified information; or (c) upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship that requires access to classified information. If I do not return such materials upon request, I understand that this may be a violation of sections 793 and/or 1924, title 18, United States Code, a United States criminal law.

Keep this in mind...The FAS has a blog post on the new document which notes that sections 10 and 11 are new.

28 posted on 03/13/2015 2:24:26 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: don-o
Oops...that was for classified information. My bad,

Yep, here it is...FORM OF-109, SEPARATION STATEMENT

29 posted on 03/13/2015 2:33:38 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: maggief

The smartest woman in the world may have outsmarted herself with this home server.

If anyone can find even one ‘official’ level email sent from her server to elsewhere that was not in the 30-some thousand she supposedly released to the House committee, she could likely be charged with destroying ‘official’ correspondence/documents, etc.

Another state dept person said earlier this week that emails exchanged between the dept and Hillary did have classified attachments.


30 posted on 03/13/2015 2:37:31 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: don-o
Just a tick...

...or administratively-controlled documents...

It's the same wording.

It seems there are two forms that need signing upon exit.

31 posted on 03/13/2015 2:39:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: don-o
5 FAH - 4 H - 217.1 Responsibilities
c. Departing officials must ensure that all record material that they possess is incorporated in the Department’s official files a nd that all file searches for which they have been tasked have been completed, such as those required to respond to FOIA, Congressional, or litigation - related document requests. Fines, imprisonment, or both may be imposed for the willful and unlawful remo val or destruction of records as stated in the U.S. Criminal Code ( e.g. , 18 U.S.C. , section 2071).
32 posted on 03/13/2015 2:50:15 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: maggief
Fines, imprisonment, or both may be imposed for the willful and unlawful removal or destruction of records...

If the Department never received them there can be no removal.
Now destruction...popcorn?

33 posted on 03/13/2015 2:59:57 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: TomGuy
Another state dept person said earlier this week that emails exchanged between the dept and Hillary did have classified attachments.

Oh well then, see? Hillary didn't lie - there were no classified emails, because attachments aren't emails. Attachments are... uh... attached... to emails. Like trailers are attached to cars, right? Would you call a trailer a car? No. Well then, thereyago.

34 posted on 03/13/2015 7:44:31 PM PDT by Talisker (ne who commands, must obey.)
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To: IYAS9YAS; Nachum

What say you then about Form SF-312 in reply 28?


35 posted on 03/17/2015 1:56:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: IYAS9YAS; Nachum
An aside...DHS Cancels Nondisclosure Agreements for Unclassified Information 1/24/2005

The Homeland Security Department (DHS), under pressure from congressional offices, federal employee unions and the media modified it policies for “Sensitive But Unclassified” (SBU) information and stopped requiring nondisclosure agreements.DHS officials were requiring that all agency employees sign a strict non-disclosure agreement for unclassified information that was deemed “sensitive” and had even begun asking congressional aides to sign the agreements. The nondisclosure agreements prohibited signers from publicly disclosing any information from DHS deemed “sensitive” or labeled “For Official Use Only” even though the information was unclassified.

36 posted on 03/17/2015 2:10:04 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
What say you then about Form SF-312 in reply 28?

If you're referring to my post in a separate thread regarding OF-109, then I'll stand by that one - she broke regulation, but not law.

However, for this one since the SF-312 is a mandatory form for classified information, it's a different story. Still not sure about the law with regard to not signing a form. Have to research it.

37 posted on 03/17/2015 2:30:04 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
However, for this one since the SF-312 is a mandatory form for classified information, it's a different story.

Not so fast there...

...classified or administratively-controlled documents.

38 posted on 03/17/2015 2:42:47 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Isn’t the wording the same in both forms?


39 posted on 03/17/2015 3:11:37 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36
Isn’t the wording the same in both forms?

No. Completely different forms. OF-109 http://gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/115326

SF-312 http://gsa.gov/portal/forms/download/116218

It's been 21 years, but the SF-312 is reminiscent of what I signed upon leaving the Air Force with the job I had, probably a DD form out there like it for the military, though. I don't have a copy of it.

40 posted on 03/17/2015 3:25:56 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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