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EPA rules on residential wood heaters fuel outcry in Minnesota, Wisconsin
Pioneer Press ^ | 3-7-15 | David Lieb

Posted on 03/09/2015 6:47:48 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

Smoke wafting from wood fires has long provided a familiar winter smell in many parts of the country -- and, in some cases, a foggy haze that has filled people's lungs with fine particles that can cause coughing and wheezing. Citing health concerns, the Environmental Protection Agency now is pressing ahead with regulations to significantly limit the pollution from newly manufactured residential wood heaters. But some of the states with the most wood smoke -- including Minnesota and Wisconsin -- are refusing to go along, claiming that the EPA's new rules could leave low-income residents in the cold.

Missouri and Michigan already have barred their environmental agencies from enforcing the EPA standards. Similar measures recently passed Virginia's legislature and are pending in at least three other states, even though residents in some places say the rules don't do enough to clear the air. It's been a harsh winter for many people, particularly those in regions repeatedly battered by snow. And the EPA's new rules are stoking fears that some residents won't be able to afford new stoves when their older models give out.

"People have been burning wood since the beginning of recorded time," said Phillip Todd, 59, who uses a wood-fired furnace to heat his home in Holts Summit. "They're trying to regulate it out of existence, I believe, and they really have no concern about the economic consequences or the hardship it's going to cause.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Minnesota; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: agw; epa; globalwarming; heat; heaters; manbearpig; minnesota; renewable; residential; tyrants; wisconsin; wood; woodheaters
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To: Morpheus2009
some people actually understand that limited forest fires are actually good for the environment (ash is good fertilizer with Potassium, for instance...)

I read somewhere that pinecones won't open enough to disgorge their seed into the ground unless they are heated up by a fire passing over.

61 posted on 03/09/2015 9:42:33 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: kiryandil

> For now. The Managers will eventually make the disobedient
> NH peasants a priority. :)

That’s when we’ll learn if the people are still Americans or if they’re just sheep like any other country dominated by elites.


62 posted on 03/09/2015 9:47:06 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: TurboZamboni

It works out to be about 1.108 pounds per acre. There are 2787 square feet in an acre. A terribly minute amount. If my math is correct, which after 60+ years it probably isn’t., the EPA is full of it again.


63 posted on 03/09/2015 10:08:43 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: Rannug

43,560


64 posted on 03/09/2015 10:10:51 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy, and he is us.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Of course the EPA has no concern about people. Its Agenda 21 whose sole mission is to reduce the population of the Earth to about 500 million.


65 posted on 03/09/2015 10:14:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yep Can’t blame that one on auto correct.


66 posted on 03/09/2015 10:26:41 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: TurboZamboni
They are delirious with delight in anticipation of having poor people starve as a result of global warming regulations...

...in the tradition of their glorious hero Stalin who starved so many of his own people through government actions.

Big government: Ya gotta love it...or they'll kill you

67 posted on 03/09/2015 11:06:22 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: ferret_airlift

Read the article, it’s right in there.

We passed a law that we wouldn’t enforce the EPA rules on wood-burners. Some areas of the state have local rules on outdoor wood-burners if you have close neighbors.


68 posted on 03/09/2015 11:15:43 AM PDT by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: ferret_airlift

“Missouri and Michigan already have barred their environmental agencies from enforcing the EPA standards.”


69 posted on 03/09/2015 11:17:36 AM PDT by Beagle8U (NOTICE : Unattended children will be given Coffee and a Free Puppy.)
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To: TurboZamboni

So we now have a lady lumberjack telling us what new stoves we can buy?


70 posted on 03/09/2015 11:27:02 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( _\\//)
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

You vill not burn ze vood!

EPA Lady Lumberjack Nanny State PING!


71 posted on 03/09/2015 11:28:11 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks ( _\\//)
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To: TurboZamboni

The next romantic crime will be bootleg stove making. Hoards of EPA enforcers will be scouring the backwoods and hollows looking for illegal welding machines and piles of scrap steel.


72 posted on 03/09/2015 11:41:01 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
"My job was to keep the stoker full, and to remove the clinkers from the furnace"

Under the EPA's sincere protection of the environment clinkers will be classified as hazardous waste under penalty of property forfeiture if caught producing them.

73 posted on 03/09/2015 11:48:00 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
When I was a kid we had a stoker that fed the coal to the furnace. There was a big coal bin, a room under the front porch, for the coal. My job was to keep the stoker full, and to remove the clinkers from the furnace.

"Aha! Aha! It's a clinkerrrrrrrr!"

74 posted on 03/09/2015 11:50:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The same attitude/behavior of government employees goes from local i.e. towns and cities thru joint power orgs thru state to the Feds where the most hungry power seekers go.


75 posted on 03/09/2015 11:57:59 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: TurboZamboni

Hey, I have a “right” to smoke free air! The tobacco warriors told me so! As a result, wood heat, candles and bbq’s should all be outlawed!

Wooo Hoo, being a convenient conservative is fun!


76 posted on 03/09/2015 12:09:46 PM PDT by CSM
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Und ya I vill!

Burn, liebchen, burn! ;-)

77 posted on 03/09/2015 12:17:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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To: Rebelbase

That will be a HUGE problem because most of the people using wood stoves probably built them themselves from scrap metal. From what I’ve seen, the Michiganders and others who use wood stoves are generally independent outdoors types who do as much for themselves as they can. Also, one of the most popular types of stove is a 50 gal. drum conversion that starts out as a 50 gal. metal drum, has a base, grate, door, damper, and exhaust added to it, and becomes a stove. No way the EPA is going tone able to stop that kind of ingenuity.


78 posted on 03/09/2015 1:17:44 PM PDT by libstripper (")
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To: buckalfa

Bitter clinkers


79 posted on 03/09/2015 3:44:26 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: Jim Noble

I like it.


80 posted on 03/09/2015 3:44:51 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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