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The Covert Origins of ISIS
SCGNEWS ^ | UPDATED 2.11.14

Posted on 02/22/2015 6:22:46 AM PST by dontreadthis

The Islamic militant group ISIS, formerly known as Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and recently rebranded as the so called Islamic State, is the stuff of nightmares. They are ruthless, fanatical, killers, on a mission, and that mission is to wipe out anyone and everyone, from any religion or belief system and to impose Shari'ah law. The mass executions, beheadings and even crucifixions that they are committing as they work towards this goal are flaunted like badges of pride, video taped and uploaded for the whole world to see. This is the new face of evil.

Would it interest you to know who helped these psychopaths rise to power? Would it interest you to know who armed them, funded them and trained them? Would it interest you to know why?

This story makes more sense if we start in the middle, so we'll begin with the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.

(Excerpt) Read more at scgnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2011; aqi; aqii; isil; isis; isishistory; seymourhersch; seymourhersh
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bear in mind this thread, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3249135/posts, regarding obie's pal erdogan
1 posted on 02/22/2015 6:22:46 AM PST by dontreadthis
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To: dontreadthis

Hizb-ut-Tahrir may become dangerous than ISIS: Report (One Million Members)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3257692/posts


2 posted on 02/22/2015 6:24:46 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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"They are ruthless, fanatical, killers, on a mission, and that mission is to wipe out anyone and everyone, from any religion or belief system and to impose Shari'ah law."

Even Stalin would be proud.

3 posted on 02/22/2015 6:27:59 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

did not know.
thanks for that


4 posted on 02/22/2015 6:29:56 AM PST by dontreadthis
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To: dontreadthis

Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 6:40:55 AM PST by PGalt
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To: dontreadthis

Ignoring that W’s taking out Saddam created the necessary vacuum renders the article pointless.

If Saddam was still there, ISIS would not exist.


6 posted on 02/22/2015 6:42:55 AM PST by sakic
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And odumbo heads to “anywhere” to play golf. Yup, he’s a real leader alright. (sarc)


7 posted on 02/22/2015 6:44:02 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: dontreadthis

Good Article. I had put most of this together already just reading Al Jazeera, BBC and Pravda. Nothing like this is revealed on the US News, which to me indicates a major cover up.


8 posted on 02/22/2015 6:54:30 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: sakic

And that’s very Naive thinking. If that were true, why did ISIS gain power through arms from Libya and in Northern Syria? Why is it Assad had them contained until the US intervened in Syria and they became strong? Neither Bush nor Iraq was involved until Obama set this one in motion .

Thanks for playing, better luck next time


9 posted on 02/22/2015 6:56:59 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: sakic

Like to see more than your opinion on that. Can you cite any facts to back up that supposition?


10 posted on 02/22/2015 7:15:54 AM PST by Non sibi sed patriae
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To: realcleanguy

When did the American/European hostage taking begin? And what happened just prior to that? HRC ‘lost’ 6 billion, Gadhaffi’s weapons went missing, all around the fall of 2012.


11 posted on 02/22/2015 7:17:33 AM PST by txhurl
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To: sakic

The article deals with the bigger picture, which is the various strategies for trying to deal with societies bent on killing anybody who’s not one of them. You can have a tyrant do the killing, to hold everybody in line, or you can have the jihadists...

What’s not being said is that the reason this is all necessary is because Islam is violent. Wherever there are large numbers of Muslims this becomes the dilemma, because Islam insists that when Muslims are the majority, they must push for sharia (which is the execution of anybody who is not one of them). Islam is a political ideology, and wherever there are substantial numbers of Muslims there will be the push for sharia, which has to be met with an equal and opposite reaction - which means tyranny.

The only way this would ever be stopped would be to keep Muslims as a tiny fraction of the population wherever they are. If they are ever allowed to breed their way into a significant population concentration, they will become hell-bent on killing everybody else; that is the ideology of Islam. It’s like poison; the only way it’s safe is if it is diluted.


12 posted on 02/22/2015 7:18:24 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/ g g)
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To: sakic

Keep the crazy enemy you know to stop new crazies from other countries from starting up? My goal would be to greatly arm Israel (a friend) to keep that whole area sane.

Saddam should have been eliminated years earlier. The war was completely justifiable.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 7:18:55 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: dontreadthis

Bear in mind that the main source cited is Seymour Hersch... who in addition to his Pulitzer prize [did not Walter Duranty also win one?] should probably have an award or two from the Russians for his reporting in the Cold War.

And that the article promises but does not tell us anything about the origins of ISIS, it’s just an extension of the myth that the US “made” bin Laden, told in a way to make the story more palatable to us because it smacks Obama.


14 posted on 02/22/2015 7:28:00 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: butterdezillion

There is also the approach of trying to talk Islam out of the teachings of Mohammed. If Islam could be subverted out of the political ideology that Mohammed espoused, then Muslims could become civilized. That’s what Egypt’s leader, Al Sisi, is pushing for.

Obama does not support Al Sisi, in any way. Obama’s guy for Egypt was the Muslim Brotherhood Islamist, Morsi. Al Sisi believes in protecting people of ALL religions, because he doesn’t buy into Mohammed’s savagery.

Obama’s opposition to Al Sisi is very, very revealing. His strategies are NOT to come up with a peaceful solution. His strategies are to end up with dead Christians and Jews.


15 posted on 02/22/2015 7:30:57 AM PST by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/ g g)
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To: sakic

Not true- ISIS was al Qaeda in Iraq, al Qaeda in Iraq was formed of Zarqawi’s group and Saddam’s red-headed General al Dhouri. His preferred base of operations is Mosul.


16 posted on 02/22/2015 7:31:06 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: txhurl

It’s all a pattern, to cover up, to arm ISIS and Al Qeada, to overthrow leaders and nations and to do it in a manner that Obama can appear weak and surprised, as if those evil terrorists are taking advantage of the situation. In reality, he caused it all


17 posted on 02/22/2015 7:39:27 AM PST by realcleanguy
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To: sakic

Not true- ISIS was al Qaeda in Iraq, al Qaeda in Iraq was formed of Zarqawi’s group and Saddam’s red-headed General al Dhouri. His preferred base of operations is Mosul and he knows how to stay in the background. As Baath Party head he also still has much of the regime’s financial resources. Last time I checked nothing much has ever been done to al Taqwa, which was where both al Qaeda and Saddam laundered money, protected by Swiss secrecy and banking law.

Note that we have yet to capture al Dhouri, whose name, like that of the current head of al Qaeda Zawahiri, is never uttered by Obama.

Note that we also have yet to pry ISIS from Mosul- or al Muthanna the regime’s old chem weapons facility, though our regime promises to get around to it in April or May.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 7:40:31 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: sakic

***If Saddam was still there, ISIS would not exist.***

Who started this ball rolling!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Stark_%28FFG-31%29


19 posted on 02/22/2015 7:49:01 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: sakic

Or if our troops are there, the vacuum doesn’t exist hence the ridiculous withdrawal of our troops. This whole plan was probably hatched 8 years ago. Bush was the useful idiot.


20 posted on 02/22/2015 8:05:48 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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