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Refugees in Nigeria tell of Boko Haram savagery (Time for boots on the ground?
BBC News ^ | 2/13/2015 | Staff

Posted on 02/13/2015 1:12:08 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Violent attacks by Boko Haram have caused many to flee their homes, creating a humanitarian crisis within Nigeria and neighboring countries.

Refugees say they have witnessed brutal acts of savagery, with men's throats being slit and women being held as "war booty."

Chad has become the latest country on the border with Nigeria to be affected by a Boko Haram attack.

The BBC's Tom Oladipo went to Yola village in Aadamawa state in northeast Nigeria and spoke to refugees there.

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(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 113th; africa; bokoharam; chad; congress; cruz; iraq; is; isil; isis; islam; jihad; military; nigeria; obama; rop; saddam; tedcruz; ukraine
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To: Cowboy Bob

And at the Canadian border. Those people will let anyone in.


21 posted on 02/13/2015 1:29:04 PM PST by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: tanuki

What about Iraq and Syria?

Aren’t there Kurdish boots on the ground along with the Iraqi military to deal with ISIS? The FSA is taking on ISIS, too.

Should we just send in more and more arms there AND do the same with Nigeria - send them arms to deal with Boko Haram?

If we are willing to arm the Kurds and others in Iraq/Syria and willing to arm the Ukrainian military, should/can we do the same with Nigeria?


22 posted on 02/13/2015 1:29:05 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Drew68

Savagery is no stranger to the Middle East, either.

If they have publicly aligned themselves with ISIS, is Boko Haram also a threat to the U.S.?

If some conservative pundits are willing to bring up liberating the people of Iraq as justification for toppling Saddam, why don’t they use the same rhetoric concerning Boko Haram?


23 posted on 02/13/2015 1:32:05 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: EEGator
No boots in Syria either.

Isn't any plan to go to Syria.

ISIS is already 12 miles out from Baghdad Intl Airport ... and are now preparing to lay siege to a town 25 miles from Baghdad in order to control a transportation corridor that can be connected to two of the operations HQs...

Iraq is so "devoted" to protecting their turf that it seems when they deploy troops, it's rarely more than 500 at a time.

That's just not going to serve as any kind of "stop sign" to these thugs.

24 posted on 02/13/2015 1:34:47 PM PST by Colofornian (When the Truth can hurt you, you do everything you can to keep the Truth from light of day...)
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To: Cowboy Bob

But what about liberating Iraq from Saddam and thus liberating Nigeria and Africa from Boko Haram?

Was toppling Saddam the really only needed justification for going into Iraq as some conservative media pundits point out?


25 posted on 02/13/2015 1:35:41 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We should be arming the Kurds, and the Sunni tribal leaders. This whole problem with ISIS wouldn’t have happened if the Shiite Iraqi government hadn’t attacked the same Sunni tribal leaders that helped us win during the surge. So the Sunnis in the Iraqi military walked away rather than face ISIS. Those leaders recently came to Washington to beg for help in fighting ISIS because the Shiite defense minister won’t pass on any aid to them while they are being killed by ISIS.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3257222/posts

We should also quit trying to support “good jihadis” against Bashir Assad, and cooperate with his government against ISIS. There just isn’t anyone better who realistically can replace him.

IMHO divide and conquer should be our basic strategy in dealing with the Islamic world. Britain used it to conquer half the world. But we have to realize we won’t be allying ourselves with a bunch of boy scouts. If we insist our allies live up to our notions of morality we will fail.


26 posted on 02/13/2015 1:38:33 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Colofornian

Lindsey Graham and Scott Walker have both said that it may be necessary to put U.S. boots on the ground in Syria.

The only ones that I know of who have said no to this are Ted Cruz and Rand Paul.


27 posted on 02/13/2015 1:38:36 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
With that in mind, if we were to put boots on the ground to deal with ISIS, should the same be done to deal with Boko Haram?

First answer the question if the Nigerian army isn't willing to fight Boko Haram then why should we? And I'd ask the same question about ISIS and the Iraqi army.

28 posted on 02/13/2015 1:39:19 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Hugin

So perhaps there should be no more talk of “Nazis” and putting U.S. boots on the ground and do as you say (which seems to be quite a convincing argument).

And perhaps we could arm Chad and the Nigerian government to deal with Boko Haram like some want to arm the Ukrainian gov’t to deal with pro-Russian separatists?


29 posted on 02/13/2015 1:41:47 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Olog-hai

>>National socialism have been linked to Islamic terror ever
>>since the end of WWII. Arab nationalism + Islamic
>>socialism = Islamic national socialism.

The self-worshiping state-establishment wherein:

“COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM”—Jefferson

Same ol Ba’al shyte, different municipal toilet.


30 posted on 02/13/2015 1:43:22 PM PST by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The Kurds are still a largely militia force battling against both ISIS and Syrian/Iranian regulars. Ukraine is facing open aggression from a formidable power. Both cases are far removed from the situation that Nigeria, a sovereign nation, is facing from an insurgency still largely within its own borders.

I’m not opposed to assisting Nigeria if it can do some good, especially as concerns the new multi-national command being set up. My only concern is that it stay a primarily Nigerian fight.


31 posted on 02/13/2015 1:43:38 PM PST by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Let Nigeria handle their own problems, we should offer support and equipment though


32 posted on 02/13/2015 1:45:11 PM PST by GeronL
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To: DoodleDawg

Some say the Nigerian gov’t is corrupt, some say it has been fighting Boko Haram to the best of its ability and others say not so much.

So we should just arm the gov’t in Chad, Nigeria, and surrounding African nations to deal with Boko Haram?

If so, should, we do the same in Iraq and Syria to deal with ISIS given that the Iraqi gov’t has had charges of corruption levied against it and that they don’t seem too willing to fight?


33 posted on 02/13/2015 1:46:30 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Subhuman savages.


34 posted on 02/13/2015 1:47:00 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: GeronL

Let Iraq handle its own problems?


35 posted on 02/13/2015 1:47:13 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I would prefer we deal with tribal leaders in most places. Governments there are corrupt and may even use the aid to suppress the people we want to help. Also in a tribal society people’s first loyalty is to their tribe. Strengthening the central government undermines tribal power and turns the tribesmen against us. Just look at Afghanistan and Iraq.


36 posted on 02/13/2015 1:48:01 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

we can’t invade the whole world.


37 posted on 02/13/2015 1:48:41 PM PST by GeronL
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To: HLPhat
IOW, you believe that some conservative pundits pull out the “Nazi” reference to stoke up putting boots on the ground vis-à-vis an emotional appeal?

Is that what some do concerning Iraq - in that they say toppling Saddam was worth it because he was barbaric to his own people?

38 posted on 02/13/2015 1:49:51 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

HOw come all the proud to be African-Americans in this country aren’t outraged at the atrocities going on in their homeland??


39 posted on 02/13/2015 1:50:08 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yes.
At best we should be hunting and assassinating the people who are funding and equipping ISIS, and destroying their assets (including state actors...).
But it is up the locals to defend themselves. We might help them equip if they seem competent and determined (like the Kurds). Maybe throw in some airstrikes.
But no troops.


40 posted on 02/13/2015 1:50:21 PM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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