China Suggests Arming Hawaiian Independence Movement

The Washington Free Beacon ^ | February 10, 2015 | Bill Gertz

[Stayfrosty]

HONOLULU—China has suggested arming Hawaii’s independence activists in retaliation for U.S. arms sales to Taiwan and recently threatened to challenge American sovereignty by making legal claims to the Pacific islands as its territory.

[buckalfa]

"That depends on the military, if it is willing to tale orders from him."

The Regime's ongoing purge of the Military's leadership will insure obedience.

[xzins]

They shouldn’t really bother. They should just ask Obama to hand them over. He’ll bow, scrape, and comply.

[Patriot Babe]

That is “if” he ever leaves office, if you know what I mean. That POS is evil and he is begginging to show his true colors.

[baltimorepoet]

One little detail that might make a big difference - Taiwan isn’t completely financially dependent on the PRC, while Hawaii would need to give up its three primary sources of income from the US; the military, tourist industry and public transfer payments.

I'm pretty sure China or Japan would snap up an "independent" Hawaii in pretty short order, in one form or another.

[montag813]

How can we deny Hawaiian independence or “giving back” Arizona to Mexico when we demand that Israel vivisect itself to create a 23rd Arab state?

[Irenic]

If he doesn’t leave, I sure hope to heck there are enough of us to throw his sorry butt out. I’ll would sure try if he stayed over his 8 years.

[Zionist Conspirator]

So, the Chicoms are Confederates now?

[Billthedrill]

It’d be a great excuse to repudiate our debt to China. Bring it on.

[Chickensoup]

Perhaps we could sell Hawaii to the Chinese for our outstanding debt.

Hawaiians will find out how wonderful it is to live under a totalitarian regime and the high unemployment, and welfare payments to the island will cease.

[ifinnegan]

Yeah.

ChiComs alwaysmuse faulty analogies.

Taiwan of the PRC, never was ever. They didn’t break away n

China, under the Qing, recognized Japan sovereignty over Taiwan in 1895.

Taiwanese formed the first Republic in Asia to try and stave off Japanese rule.

Taiwan was part of Japan until 1951 and the San Francisco Peace Treaty that ended WWII.

[ifinnegan]

“except for the fact that China hates a Muslim”

Chinese Communists love Muslims and have allied with Arafat, Ayatollah’s Iran, the Taliban, Pakistan etc... For a long time.

Communist law under the PRC decrees that China has certain native religions. Christianity, Judaisim, Hinduism are by law foreign. Buddhism, Taoism and Islam are called non-foreign.

[ifinnegan]

“I wonder if PRC will claim discovery and ownership of Hawaii as is their MO.”

Not too long ago they did just that to Australia in a speech there by Hu Jintao or the former PM, don’t remember which.

[af_vet_rr]

The time is sure right for China to retake Taiwan. USA (Obama) won’t do anything about it. What are we going to do? Sanctions? Make Chinese goods illegal in the US? Quit paying our debt that we barrow the principle to repay?

Whether we like it or not, China and America's economies are very much intertwined, and we are not going to war with them, nor are they going to war with us, because it would destroy both of our economies, although we are in a better environment to survive.

Taiwan is a smoke screen, same with the islands near Japan. China will poke around, especially with Vietnam and the Philippines, to see if they can get some concessions and/or put on a show for the folks back on, but at the end of the day, there is very little that is worth China destroying their economy and putting tens of millions and hundreds of millions of Chinese out of jobs and on the streets. Taiwan and some islands near Japan don't fall into that category.

Had a friend who is a missionary (a businessman as far as the Chinese government is concerned), and who came back recently from China, and he talked about all of the problems China is suffering internally. We all saw the problems China has had in Hong Kong and elsewhere, but we are not seeing is the strife that's occurring within China.

He saw situations where the Chinese government had very little control in some of the outer areas, and he even saw individuals and small groups stirring up problems in the larger cities/areas closer to Beijing. If China goes to war with us, then their factories will shut down and tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of Chinese will be angry and on the streets, and China does not have the capability to shut down protests on that kind of scale. Sure, those workers might blame America, but they will take it out on the Chinese government.

Communist countries don't have a good track record when it comes to millions of pissed off, out-of-work and hungry peasants taking to the streets.

[StoneWall Brigade]

Ping!

[Thunder90]

Putin is going to help out as well...

[Tenacious 1]

You speak of war with China? If I am reading your sentiments correctly, you speak specifically of direct attacks on Chinese land that would shut down factories.

You are missing the point and I believe underestimate the Chinese, as were the Russians under estimated.
If China has calculated correctly, Taiwan could be taken with barely a shot fired, mostly from the inside but with a little military might as well.

[Carry_Okie]

In a few years it'll probably be more like visiting Jamaica.

Highly profitable. Elitists will pay a lot "to see how the poor folks live," and it costs so little to maintain! Besides, "the islands are overpopulated," and the land should have an aboriginal subsistence culture to maintain the vegetation.

See? It all works.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” He must be getting paid handsomely by Soros to destroy our nation and Congress is clueless”

Congress isn’t clueless, they are at least complicit.

[DaveA37]

“Hawaii would need to give up its three primary sources of income from the US; the military, tourist industry and public transfer payments”.............

Hawaii doesn’t have to worry about any of my money coming their way. Sister and Bro-in-law just returned from a tour there and from their reports, they too would never be spending another dollar there nor do they have any plans to return. (they’re “loaded”)

[elcid1970]

Why vacation in a place where the natives lecture tourists to “respect our culture!”

I am close friends with an interracial Army couple stationed in Hawaii. She’s black, he’s white.

They have learned not to venture into areas where Pineapples are the majority, if you get my drift.