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11-year-old packs big surprise for home invaders
WND.com ^ | 4FEB2015 | Leo Hohman

Posted on 02/04/2015 9:08:38 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine

Rule number one for any child: Never talk to strangers.

But an 11-year-old Lapeer County, Michigan, girl went above and beyond the call of duty, and her heroic actions may have saved her from harm during a home invasion last week by two hardened criminals.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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To: ExSES
Before the tragic boating accident that caused the loss of my firearms, I had an Ithaca 37 featherweight that i used for upland game. Had a couple of different barrels, including a 28", non ventilated rib that I picked up for a few dollars since the bluing was shot. A few quick turns with an industrial size pipe cutter and voila - instant (and very illegal) - very short barrel. Effective range, less than ten yards, loaded with #4 shot a shot at 10 feet aimed at center mass would put small holes from navel to nose. In the event of emergency, swap out barrel and put the little one into a pile of pipe.

And no worries about through and throughs into the next room.

21 posted on 02/04/2015 10:55:42 AM PST by par4
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To: TexasRepublic
You should look at home defense models with a pistol grip instead of a butt stock.

Check your local laws- they're illegal in a number of states.

22 posted on 02/04/2015 11:03:50 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: par4

Sorry about your tragic boating accident. Same thing happened to me. . . I lost everything in the Tennessee River. I had some fine firearms before that happened. Now I just sit around eating tofu and calling 911 if I suspect something is wrong.


23 posted on 02/04/2015 11:13:28 AM PST by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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To: Raycpa
The girl called her parents, who instructed her to get her shotgun out of the safe and hide in the closet in her locked bedroom.
24 posted on 02/04/2015 11:16:46 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: TexasRepublic
Nothing says intimidation like the “clack-clack” of a pump action shotgun - you might not even have to fire it.

No, racking the shotgun will just give away your position to a prepared intruder, and cost you valuable time if you have to fire.

25 posted on 02/04/2015 11:19:24 AM PST by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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To: TexasRepublic
Nothing says intimidation like the “clack-clack” of a pump action shotgun

There is nothing like the “clack-clack” of a pump action shotgun to give away your exact location and remove the element of surprise either.

I save the “clack-clack” of a pump action shotgun for the movies. Mine stays "clack-clacked".

26 posted on 02/04/2015 11:26:36 AM PST by Eaker (I'm a glass half-shattered kinda guy.)
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To: AxeofCrom

Contrary to popular believe, its safer to use a 5.56 or 7.32x39 rifle indoors than it is to use a shotgun or a pistol. The rifle cartridges penetrate less drywall and a carbine is much easier to handle under stress. I would avoid mounting a light because you can probably navigate your own home in the dark much better than an intruder, that’s an important advantage.


27 posted on 02/04/2015 11:27:46 AM PST by MeatshieldActual (Texan Independence, now and forever!)
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To: par4
In the event of emergency, swap out barrel and put the little one into a pile of pipe.

You ever watch NCIS or one of the CSI shows? The lab boys would pick right up on this as easily as the old "drag them outside" BS.

Premeditated murder and tampering with a crime scene? You would have plenty of time to think about this in prison afterward.

28 posted on 02/04/2015 11:31:21 AM PST by Eaker (I'm a glass half-shattered kinda guy.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Someone probably had that comment made just in case some bureaucratic douchebag decided they needed to be harassed over a child having access to the firearm.


29 posted on 02/04/2015 11:34:29 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Eaker

Yea, you never want to drag them outside, that’s what lots of hefty bags and carving knives are for.


30 posted on 02/04/2015 11:38:38 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

Normally I would think that, and it was my first thought, but shotguns are large. If it was a handgun, no problem, but most people have never even heard of a shotgun safe, though it is logical they exist.


31 posted on 02/04/2015 11:51:16 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Shotgun safes are still pretty uncommon

Are you serious? Search for Gun Safes. You really need to do some research before posting.

32 posted on 02/04/2015 12:05:29 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: GladesGuru
Did she have her ear protection on? If not, that shottie would have inflicted permanent loss of hearing

Haven't done a lot of hunting have you?

33 posted on 02/04/2015 12:07:01 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks all for your replies and advice. A couple of you emailed me with some advice as well, and I deeply appreciate it. Unfortunately I cannot reply directly as I am too new to these forums.

To the person who suggested the Judge - that was the one that appealed to me the most. I’m large enough to use it. I do worry about neighbor collateral damage, but I’ll be moving into a house soon and that won’t be an issue.

It’s been a number of years, but I used to shoot all the time with my dad and did a fair amount of skeet shooting and range practice with a variety of weapons. I just lost interest over time (firearms don’t really fascinate me - swords, etc., do, and I own a few working ones - but I’m not stupid enough to bring a knife to a gunfight) and never bothered to purchase one myself. Needless to say, I’ll have to hit the practice range again and become proficient in whatever weapon I choose.

I live in Little Rock, AR, in a fairly high-end part of town, at a fairly high-end apartment complex, a little bit out in the country. However, the crime has been inching out slowly in our direction, and the thugs here mean business. Most of the people who live in my complex are between houses, or in temporary housing, or retired. That’s what worries me - we have nice stuff good for stealing.

I have a dachshund who may or may not sound the alarm, but anybody breaking into my apartment in the middle of the night is probably armed and needs to be dispatched immediately and permanently. We have some police officers and military personnel who live in the complex and display their vehicles, and the community is gated, but some of these meth and crack heads aren’t going to care about that.

I’ll definitely avoid the weapon light. Thanks again.


34 posted on 02/04/2015 12:28:52 PM PST by AxeofCrom
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
I never had any problems but my sisters were left alone with guns like this.

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35 posted on 02/04/2015 12:31:40 PM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I know that you can find shotgun safes easily if you look for them, but I truly doubt that the typical family that has a shotgun keeps it in a safe.


36 posted on 02/04/2015 12:40:19 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
but I truly doubt that the typical family that has a shotgun keeps it in a safe.

More than you realize do!

37 posted on 02/04/2015 12:49:52 PM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: AxeofCrom
I’ll definitely avoid the weapon light.

Like a firearm, it may be better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. They can be left off. Sorry to hear the tweekers are that bad in AR.

38 posted on 02/04/2015 12:58:52 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Lapeer County has been rather busy lately...like the Wild West-Coyotes killing horse, brave girls shooting criminals, what next?


39 posted on 02/04/2015 1:05:50 PM PST by madison10
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I leave loaded guns around in easy to reach places. Guns in safes are useless when they are needed. I didnt lose any guns on boating trips. If the government wants them then me and their agents will be carried from my home in blood.

If a child is coming to the house i will put them up but once the child is gone they go back out. Mostly shotguns and pistols though. Bolt action deer rifles make poor home defense unless I get a 100 yard heads up. Crooks rarely provide that level of consideration.


40 posted on 02/04/2015 1:09:24 PM PST by wgmalabama
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