Posted on 01/30/2015 8:31:05 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Considering that he has given our enemy Iran 80% of what they want in negotiations that were supposed to curtail their nuclear enrichment program, you bet I would. The guy is a pushover and if I played my cards right, I might end up walking off the lot with a free car.
According to Channel 10 in Israel, Israeli officials believe that the American president is so desperate for a deal, he will give away the store and American and Israeli security in his quest to make history with the Iranians.
Jerusalem Post:
Israeli officials told Channel 10 on Friday that they are convinced the Obama administration has already agreed to most of Irans demands in the P5+1 negotiations over the Islamic Republics nuclear program.
According to unnamed officials, Washington has given the Iranians 80 percent of what they want out of the negotiations, Channel 10 is reporting.
Jerusalem officials appear alarmed at the prospect that the United States will soon strike a deal with the Iranian regime that will leave it with a breakout capacity of months during which it can gallop toward a nuclear bomb.
The practical significance of the American compromises in the talks is that Iran will be permitted to keep over 7,000 centrifuges, enough for the Iranians to produce enough enriched material to sprint toward the bomb within a matter of months.
These developments have apparently fueled Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus sense of urgency in traveling to Washington and addressing Congress in hopes of lobbying American lawmakers to pass tougher sanctions against the Islamic Republic.
Channel 10 reported that Netanyahu spoke to a number of Democratic lawmakers in Congress. The premier sought to assuage their concerns that the Israeli leader was using his speech before a joint session of the house in order to undermine Obamas foreign policy.
Netanyahus scheduled speech sparked an uproar in Washington, with Democrats accusing House speaker John Boehner of inviting the premier to speak before Congress as a means of whipping up opposition to the Obama administrations talks with Iran.
Sources in Jerusalem told Channel 10 that the prime minister views the Iranian nuclear issue as one of paramount importance for Israels security. The urgency of the matter and not partisan politics is what motivated Netanyahu to violate diplomatic protocol and accept the Republican leaderships invitation to address the Congress on the need for more sanctions against Iran, Channel 10 quotes officials as saying.
After expressing due skepticism at the claim that the administration has tanked the negotiations and given the Iranians almost everything they want, we should look very closely at that 7,000 centrifuge number and understand exactly what Prime Minister Netanyahu is so concerned about.
As a courtesy, the administration has been updating the Israeli government on certain aspects of the negotiations. This is not to give the Israelis a veto, but rather allow them a heads up if they feel they have to respond to a changed situation.
The centrifuge question is of critical importance because Iran is on the verge of modernizing those machines that separate the U-238 and create low enriched uranium. The modernization program is what most concerns Netanyahu.
From an article on the Arms Control Association website:
This article therefore suggests that, during the next five years, Iran should modernize its enrichment facilities and in doing so, keep its operating capacity at about the current level rather than begin to operate the many thousands of first-generation machines that it already has installed and continue setting up more. During this period, Iran could phase out its first-generation machines in favor of the second-generation centrifuges it already has installed but has not yet operated. At the same time, it could develop, produce, and store components for a future generation of centrifuges that would be suitable for commercial-scale deployment. These later-generation centrifuges would not need to be assembled, except for test machines, until at least 2019.
To maintain the confidence of the international community that there will be no diversion of centrifuge components to a secret enrichment plant, the current transparency measures that Iran has undertaken for its centrifuge program would continue. These transparency measures should become the standard for transparency for centrifuge production worldwide.
Iran currently operates about 20,000 of these first generation centrifuges, which are relatively inefficient and unreliable. But the next generation machines would probably double the production capacity of their program even with only 7,000 machines. As the Israelis point out, this would telescope the time frame for Iran to gear up to produce bomb grade uranium.
Netanyahu is hearing a lot of criticism from both US and Israeli officials for his planned speech to Congress in March. But perhaps hes willing to sacrifice his standing because he knows instinctively that only a direct, emotional appeal to Israels friends in the US can avoid the catastrophic outcome of these one-sided negotiations.
Taking this situation as it should be taken...it really is not a negotiation. Israel knows that. And so do many in the Congress.
Obama may send them a few dozen of our nukes and then claim he was successful in getting them to stop developing them.
jOkeass will be compared to Chamberlain in history, with Chamberlain coming out on top.
Obama, the ultimate anti-Semite in the strongest position to attempt or abet the attempted annihilation of Israel. I say “attempted” because G_d is still in control and, Biblically speaking, he will not allow the destruction of His chosen.
Proof ... the Jews are still with us despite all the historical attempts to destroy them.
All of this talk about obummer being a bad negotiator, a good person that just does not understand capitalism, a president who means well but just is not capable of the job.....and on and on.
BS!
The facts are that he is a traitor to the United States of America.
He sends known terrorists from Guantanamo home, so they can cause mayhem.
He gives 11 billion to Iran, who will use it to finance the terrorists, some of whom will kill our soldiers, and all of whom would if they get the opportunity.
He plays a game of chess in which he creates vacuums in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, and attempted to do so in Egypt, but luckily the Egyptian people and the army would have none of it.
And what was the purpose of creating a vacuum in all of those places as well as others not named? To make it possible for the Egyptian Brotherhood and their like to take over those areas.
Why does he go to Saudi Arabia to the funeral of a man buried a week before his arrival when he ignored the death of Margaret Thatcher?
It is too late at night and the list is too long to list all of his treacherous deeds, so I will end it with his decimation of the Army, the Navy and the rest of our military.
We are in peril and everyone is rearranging the deck chairs while they listen to the orchestra play beautiful music.
What are we going to do?
Brag that we are working together in the spirit of compromise and putting another Eric Holder in skirts in the DOJ.
We should be proud of our great accomplishment.
Oh, and move that other deck chair, will you please? And while you ae moving it, think about the fact that the next war will be with nukes.
If it gets 10-20% worse I’ll be on a different “cruise ship” and the deck chairs won’t matter a bit to me.
I hope the other 20% of what they want is for Obama to go there and take up permanent residence.
What would be his usefulness for them in this case? Nobody loves traitors.
Mossad please help us
Suppose you are right, only just off on the timing.
Suppose the real deal is that he goes there after the Caliphate and we are under Sharia Law.
I suspect that we are about to be flamed by the libs, but something is going on that is destroying this country's ability to defend itself.
Only today, the Pentagon stated that China would soon have more military power than the US.
But then maybe the Pentagon should spend less on themselves and more on the men in the field.
Pentagon employees are going up at a startling rate while the number of troops is going down.
And all of them have better pay and benefits than the troops.
Gee Only another 20% to go and he’ll proclaim yet another personal triumph
This is why Obama doesn’t want Netanyahu speaking to the House of Representatives.. His deals with Iran are detrimental to the security of the US and Israel and he doesn’t want any of it getting out.
Its not a problem of facing the facts, it a problem of defining the facts.
The actual fact is that the NPT allows Iran to enrich. And there may be some vagueness as to how much enrichment capacity NPT allows Iran to have.
It is not likely that Iran would consent to any agreement that restricts their enrichment capacity to less than what NPT allows.
So once Iran is allowed to enrich, then that has to be monitored, and Iran will allow that only after Israel consents to monitoring.
And it is not just what Israel or the NeoCon Republicans, or AIPAC thinks about this. What does P5 plus 1 minus 1 think. Has P5 plus 1 minus 1 given Iran 80% of what they want? What level of enrichment will P5 plus 1 minus 1 allow Iran. Will this issue split P5 plus 1 into two groups, perhaps with Russia, China, and Germany siding with Iran?
Then you have to wonder about Brazil, will they be allowed to enrich?
Taken to the conclusion, this is not about enrichment. This is about whether or not the US of A is the world hegemon, willing to militarily dominate the world. Do what we tell you to do or we will attack you, possibly with a nuke weapon.
amen....
And that thing about shunning Margaret Thatcher.
Thanks for clearing all of that up.
But I can shed more light. It is about whether the US has a foreign policy based on idealism or realism/pragmatism.
So you are a neocon and your neocon prez(Bush) set all this off but you have not been able get another neocon into the presidency. Maybe you should nominate Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, or Bill Kristol?
Here we go.
It is all the fault of George Bush!
I am no fan of ANY Bush, but mnostly because of his economic and other domestic policies .
But anyway, you just exposed the fact that you are a lib, so discussion from here on is a waste of time.
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