Israeli Officials: Obama has Already Given Iran 80% of What they Want in Nuke Negotiations

"Its all the fault of George Bush!"

The prez is responsible, but you have to recognize that Bush was deceived by his neocon advisors. But he eventually fired Feith, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld. That fact, coupled with the fact that Bush refused to pardon libby, caused the neocons to turn on Bush.

You can call me a lib if you want to, but the foreign policy issues don't fall along political party lines. They fall along foreign policy doctrine lines. So when the NeoCon republicans and the Liberal Interventionist democrats agree to a particular course in foreign policy, it is highly likely that will be the course taken, because in Congress they are collectively very powerful.

Then if you join the neocons and liberal interventionists with the Likudniks and AIPAC, they are very, very powerful.

Who uses the term “neocons”?

Libs. Usually lib news (propaganda) organizations.

So Bush was fooled by, lied to by his neocon subordinates?

I guess the British M15, the Mossad and Hussein himself were all part of the conspiracy?

Iraq was a mistake. Not because of the evidence, which was believed by everyone including the dims in Congress, but rather it was a mistake because it opened a Pandora's box. It destabilized a country that was stable, if not admirable.

To Bush's credit, he had the backbone to stabilize the country, even though it took great effort and lots of money and lives lost, and the country was in reasonably good shape when he ended his term as president.

And obummer blew it.

And then obummer destabilized Libya, but instead of sticking around long enough to make it stable, he cut and ran.

And he attempted to do the same in Egypt.

Today he is trying to destabilize Israel.

But no lib will ever get it.

That is your set of facts, that are not actual facts.

Bush lied about Iraq. Invading Iraq destabilized Iraq and the region. Dissolving the government, military, and police further destabilized.

Then he picked Maliki to head the govt and Maliki lied to Bush. The sunni boycotted the Maliki election and started a civil war, which Bush put down by sending even more troops. Bush didn't really put down the uprising, he drove them into Syria where they started a civil war against the shia govt there.

Bush's buddy Maliki began purging the sunni and kurds before Bush had left office and it got worse and worse as time went by. Eventually the Iraqi sunni welcomed ISIS back into Iraq. Now we have to protect Bush's shia govt in Iraq again.

And to make it worse, Saudi Arabia has never recognized Bush's shia govt in Iraq, and are still mad that Bush set up a shia govt in Iraq and it is sunni money from Saudi Arabia that is funding the sunni rebels in Syria and Iraq.

But the good news is we replaced Shia Maliki in Iraq with a different Shia prime minister.

So Congress told Obama to start training and arming the Syrian rebels(sunni) in 2013, which the CIA did. But that wasn't fast enough so Congress(in 2014)appropriated more money and gave the job to the military. No doubt some of these weapons will be used in Iraq and against Israel.

The last man to unify the sunni and shia was Salidin and he drove the Crusaders out and Templers into the sea..

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