Posted on 01/21/2015 12:21:14 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
BRANDON — Clarence Daniels had just crossed the threshold of Walmart's front doors on Tuesday, in search of coffee creamer for his wife, when the gun in hip holster gave a well-intentioned vigilante the idea he was up to something more sinister.
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Thank you for the reminder. That is something I’ve been neglecting lately.
Not going to apologize for dissing your comment.
I REFUSE to carry both my concealed holster and my hip holster when I’m doing range shooting. Let alone finding it too hot to wear the jacket I left the house with. I consider ‘dangerous’ the idea that I’m being reckless for open carrying and there is NOTHING in the article to suggest this guy was an ‘activist’.
I recommend that EVERY CHL holder open carry from time-to-time in their area. It’s the desensitizing nature of ‘not’ OCing that causes this sort of crap.
If you forgot your sarc tag, that’s on you.
Ya know, I missed that tidbit scanning the article and reacted to Scutter’s comment.
Thanks for pointing that out. Moron is right.
“Carry concealed, fool!”
He was. The idiot saw him holster the gun when he got out of his car. The gun was under his jacket.
Yep,and he looks like a decent guy, not a gangbanger.
IT WAS CONCEALED!
It wasn’t printing. According to the article, he openly took the gun where people could see it and then placed it under his jacket. When he brought the gun out of concealment, that’s enough to get the license yanked.
According to the article, it wasn’t inadvertent exposure, it was deliberate.
From the Walmart parking lot at 11110 Causeway Boulevard, Michael Foster, 43, of Lithia had watched Daniels, 62, take from his car the handgun — for which he holds a concealed carry permit — and place it on his hip underneath his coat, Hillsborough sheriff’s deputies reported.
If the idiot saw him holster his gun, that means the gun wasn’t concealed and the exposure was not inadvertent. That’s a violation of the law.
He saw the gun at his car before he put his jacket on.
BS ! Where is your proof it was a deliberate exposure?
When I travel in my vehicle, it is uncomfortable to have my concealed weapon on me—it stays in my between-seat console or beside me covered up (concealed). But when I get out of the vehicle, I have to retrieve it and holster or pocket it, and during that brief time, no matter how hard I try to conceal the action, there is the chance someone in the vehicle next to me, above me in an office building window, or watching via overhead camera, drone, or satellite, can see me do that. That’s not deliberate, it just has to be, and it’s not brandishing! Brandishing isn’t just letting the weapon accidentally be glimpsed, it has to do with an overt or implied threat WITHOUT JUSTIFICATION to use the purposely-displayed (”brandished”) weapon! The former is not illegal, but the latter is. It sounds to me like Mr. Daniels simply had his movement accidentally witnessed.
What sounds more likely in this case is profiling by Foster, as Mr. Daniels appears to be Black.
Thats how you get shot.
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Not in Florida.
I don’t open carry. Simply because I don’t want anyone to know I have one. Just my personal preference.
That said, I think we can all agree there should not be a law saying I can’t if I so desire.
Until we get constitutional carry or licensed open carry we face these questions. There are two constitutional carry bills ready to be introduced when our legislature returns and there are at least 4 open carry bills requiring a license that will be introduced.
During the 2013 debate over changing our law, one of the points made was that under the old way the law was written if you took you gun off in the the parking lot and locked it in your trunk before entering a place where carry was illegal you should not lose your license.
It seems to me that putting your gun back on would covered as not something that would cause you to lose tour license. automatically.
Doesn’t stop me either.
Its concealed and nobody is the wiser. I would rather face charges on a misdemeanor ordinance than bury one of my family members because I could not defend them.
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